The last time we had a post like this it was filled with a bunch of sealioning from tankies (authoritarian socialists). Be aware that we will be banning any such behavior.
this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2025
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on that thread most comments were downvoted lmao, i even got a comment in the negatives because i called them fascists (they are, doesnt matter if they like the USSR or not)
thanks for cleaning this comm up 👍
edit: someone literally downvoted every single comment in this thread lmao, the fascists are mad
Not sure why, but that happens in a lot of threads. Most threads I see all comments have at least one downvote lol
Naturally, red fascists are sensitive to being called out, since their natural habitat is the internet.
Seriously, how the fuck do we not consider them actual fascists? they support putin, xi and worst of all, bashaar al Kalb. They're fascists that just want free housing and food.
PS: I'm a socialist myself, i'm not criticizing the left or the ideologies as a whole, just their Stalin circlejerk cult.
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common 196 W
thank you for preserving this important history in our minds!
Yes! Fuck authoritarianism, including refusing to acknowledge another's lived experiences because it doesn't match up with the "authority" of your own.
We agree on many fronts and should have solidarity. I've enjoyed each and every interaction that I've had with you.
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Fuck Tankies, Fuck Conservatives.
Fuck everyone who tries to maintain or implement hierarchies.
Conservatives want you to carry on working for them. Talkies just want to change who you work for. Both can get fucked.
Fuck stateism.
Anarchy Baby!
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I do not possess a dick but this post made me rock hard. Like, mentally. Gave me a raging brainer.
Gave me a raging brainer.
I am stealing this. This mine now.
I have to be honest. I remembered I've heard it before. I stole it from Futurama!
One if my least favorite episodes, too...
Wait! I mean!
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okay but tankies aren't white supremacists and that guy is wearing a screwdriver shirt
Tankies defend things like russian organised genocide during soviet union where they kept doing what hitler tried.
So just like skinheads they are all for human suffering. Arguing over semantics at this point.
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It's an edit
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No Gods No Masters
Some people don't understand that last part, unfortunately.
Considering America just became a fascist state, I vote tankies be allowed to post if they have actual tanks they're willing to donate to the radical militias we've obviously all joined.
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Hey whats a tankie
In case you're asking out of good faith curiosity:
Tankie is a pejorative (and rightfully so) term for a particular brand of communist/socialist. It's worth noting that I have nothing against communists or communism in general (even though I don't agree with it as a political system). A tankie is someone whose standpoint is that communism can do no wrong; anything that went wrong in USSR and China is CIA's fault, and the Czechs, Hungarians, and Tibetans had it coming.
Oh, and to any tankies who are reading this and are tempted to engage in sealioning, don't bother - I don't care and probably won't respond. Plus there's a pretty good chance you're already on my block list. Call me fascist if you will (I'vebeen called worse things), but at least tell me a definition of fascism that doesn't also encompass todays China and Russia
Basically, it's a label applied to people of a communist persuasion who have given up on any form of critical thinking, and just defaults to "America bad, therefore anything opposing it must be good". Yes, America bad indeed. But that doesn't automatically Pol Pot, Kim Young Un, and Stalin are good.
Also, don't be surprised if this comment is downvoted to oblivion after someone links it on hexbear or lemmygrad. It's quite telling that comments like this are usually attacked based on syntax rather than substance, while refusing to actually explain what happened at Tianmen Square or during the Holodomor, without citing russian or Chinese propaganda.
Also, the name is a reference to communist countries sending tanks against civilians, RE: Hungary 1956, Prague 1968, and Tianmen Square 1989
As a leftist pinko card-carrying Democratic Socialist of America, I can't agree that Tankies are on this side of the fence. I think they're all either brainwashed or trolling... Either way, they have no idea what they're saying most of the time.
That being said, they've ruined the ability for some of us to give honest constructive criticism of the American left.
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Isn't it more than that though? A lot of the US intervention stuff can be true, but I thought the whole thing that made a tankie a tankie was the support of an authoritarian dictatorship and wanting that to be implemented?
Like I totally believe the US does and will try to destroy any communist country that arises, but I dont support the idea of a "dictatorship of the proletariat" so hopefully that doesn't make me a tankie lol
True. I just tried to give a short primer. I am indeed part of (to an extent) the "America bad"-camp, but it doesn't make me sverve so hard I crash into a ditch on the opposite side.
haha, love that picture!
Edit: Also I think hexbear and lemmygrad can't downvote due to being defederated from blåhaj.
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Just a friendly suggestion. Leninism isn't communism. Don't give them what they want by referring to them as communist. It gives actual communist/anarchist even more undeserved grief and misinformation to counter.
Leninism often referred to as ML is an authoritarian ideology. Which is a socialist in name only. They will gladly sacrifice actual socialism to protect the ruling Vanguard ala the tankies. Claiming their ideology is to facilitate building an economy that can then somehow transition to communism. They have no outline or mechanism for this to happen. In fact they would kill most anyone who tried. As those people would be a threat to the Vanguard.
Communism is a classless stateless society. A Society with a separate Vanguard party has classes. And authoritarian state is not stateless. Therefore they are not communist no matter how much they use the term. You are spot on with everything else though.
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I'll just add one more detail that hasn't already been said. Although they profess to be left-wing communists, tankies will defend countries like 21st century Russia in its invasion of Ukraine, despite Russia not even pretending to be communist, and in fact being the very worst that crony capitalism has to offer.
Tankies in reality, at least on Lemmy, seem to position themselves primarily as anti-America and anti anything America supports, rather than being for any specific policies associated with communism.
Tankie's Prayer
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it did, that wasn't his fault.
And if it was, he didn't mean it.
And if he did...
They deserved it.
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Self proclaimed communists that claim to want power for the people but rally for an authoritarian dictator who holds all the power. Not much different from monarchists.
Usually a strong idolatry and religious type fixation of deifying individuals to remain in power.
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