Only one color on that map wanted things to be "different."
this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2025
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Biden's polling low, the voters want things do be different... huh, better campaign on doing nothing different! What? They're saying we're doing a genocide? Well, better point out that Trump is gonna do a worse genocide!
That'll be a great message, exactly the sort of thing that makes people excited to vote...
"Democrats didn't entertain me enough so I didn't vote."
OP mentions genocide
Response frames it as entertainment
Yes. The party needs to be enticing. They lost an election. Shaming voters for not embracing lesser evilism is another mistake the party is making and you're reproducing here.
At least twice now the party has believed themselves to be assured of victory because Trump is on the ballot. Now they may never have a chance to run again.
Yeah, because people should vote on excitement and engagement, not truth ... totally doesn't devolve a democratic process into one of reactionary populisms fueled by false promises. If people want to get excited, they should go to a theme park. If they have a shred of civil responsibility, they vote, specially when things were as bad as they were.
because people should vote on excitement and engagement, not truth
What part of the genocide wasn't true at the time of the elections?
reactionary populisms fueled by false promises
Like codifying Roe V Wade? Like closing Guantanamo?
If they have a shred of civil responsibility
Civil responsibility is voting for the party that pretends to care about Gazans while carrying out a genocide and funding Israel.
Like not spamming the same comment multiple times and like realizing that the only but quite essential power you do have is choosing between the least worse candidate because the much worse candidate will go the complete autocrat route. I can't believe how brainwashed some people continue to be to try to argue they have not just doomed Gaza, helped expand Guantanamo Bay, or have endangered people's right while trying to use examples of how it could have been better as an "argument".
Literally ALL the things you've mentioned could have been fixed by democrats, and 2/3 were actually electoral promises... I dont know how you expect people to keep voting for the lesser evil if the lesser evil is a deceptive and genocidal party
Because the alternative is much worse and arguments like yours are so far more deceptive that they are the Hail Mary of autocratic troll factories.
Just because you don't get the choices you want or should have does not mean you should throw it away, and if what Trump isn't proving that already, then you are either a dumbass or arguing in bad faith. People like you are far more responsible for Trump and as a consequence his actions than the voters you claim to hate.
It is perfectly possible to try to work to change a system from the outside that cannot be changed from the inside while trying to use whatever influence you have on the inside to prevent the worst aspects of it. Instead you choose play acting and then shaking off responsibility.
Well you clearly see it doesn't work. Saying "there's someone worse* CLEARLY doesn't mobilise people to vote repeatedly against fascism. Almost as if, hear me out, fascism has never historically been beaten through electoralism. What we need is to organize in leftist communities and organisations, create dual power structures, protest hard and support labor rights, and struggle against fascism through direct action instead of voting once every four years.
Keep blaming the people who warned you that the democrat strategy of lesser-evilism wouldn't work.
If people want to get excited, they should go to a theme park.
Welcome to America!
If they have a shred of civil responsibility
lmao
That's the thing, when most of society laughs at that, the chances of having any sort of democratic process work drop to nothing.
Americans have the most individualist "fuck you I got mine" ladder-pulling-upist culture in the entire world. Maybe someday we'll have a cultural revolution and come out the other side less anti-social, but in the meantime if you want anything done in this country you've got to convince people that there's something in it for them.
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because people should vote on excitement and engagement, not truth
What part of the genocide wasn't true at the time of the elections?
reactionary populisms fueled by false promises
Like codifying Roe V Wade? Like closing Guantanamo?
If they have a shred of civil responsibility
Civil responsibility is voting for the party that pretends to care about Gazans while carrying out a genocide and funding Israel.
i mean, it's also factually true. I still maintain that the dems ran a fairly good campaign. The problem was voter turnout, as it always is, except for 2020, when voting was easier.
Because democrats have an aversion to actually doing things for some reason (primarily age related)
Lol. So many dumb voters who think everything changes for the better overnight if they protest vote and don't grasp that politics is a battle of voting for the less shitty option so you can take baby steps toward something better.
In the end, all they did was set us back X number of years/decades. Thanks stupids.
politics is a battle of voting for the less shitty option so you can take baby steps toward something better.
Every single time Dems have won since Carter, we have been baby stepping towards something worse. The victories for gay rights under Obama were a brief outlier in our country's otherwise uninterrupted march towards fascism.
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Looks to be on track to setting us back about 90 years and moving us about halfway around the globe.
I'm thinking 150 years, and staying right here....
At which tax bracket do you get to enjoy life now?
If I remember right, things start to turn around somewhere north of 350k yearly.
Oh neat. I'm only 320k away.....
This meme is almost a decade old now isn't it?
It first appeared shortly after he was elected. It needs to be updated to the person burning their house down.
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