Remember that we're not allowed to call for violence, even when all civil options have failed. There's going to come a time when empty comments come to carry a meaning of their own.
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Ok so this is really a hostile takeover right out of a black mirror episode. It's starting to dawn on me
While I appreciate that it dawned on you... Why did it take this long? They told us exactly what they were going to do.
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It’s starting to dawn on me
I mean, yes, it really is. We're watching what may be the end of democracy. We're only a month in and we have unelected oligarchs making policy decisions and budget measures without voting or congressional oversight or even representation.
This is the definition of a coup, it's just that there's no tanks rolling down the street. Yet.
Our best-case scenario is that they just want to steal our money, and once they fill their bellies with your private data and identity data and of course, money, they will return to their dens to digest the feast. Our worst-case scenario is that the 2024 election will be remembered as America's last attempt at democracy.
Tanks rolling down the street is a good keyword. What's your militarys take on all this? Are they more likely to defend democracy or are they already mostly lead by magas? How likely is them kicking out the government and taking over?
While the US military is sworn to uphold the Constitution, the President is still technically their commander and boss and they are obligated to follow his orders unless it's some egregious offense against the constitution, but like with everything happening right now, we've never had this system tested, we've never faced a military having to make this choice on a large-scale level.
We also have a constitution that was written centuries ago and hasn't been updated or amended in a very long time, and this archaic abstractness is what has let so many people and courts stretch the interpretations or ignore it entirely. At this point I don't think the military will defy the administration for nearly any reason because nobody actually knows what they're doing or supposed to do. The rug has been yoinked out from under US government but it's been a slow, slow tug and we didn't realize we didn't have a rug under us until the system wasn't there to protect anyone anymore. Add to that, there are enough far-right generals and defense department officials who are completely on-board with this administration's warmongering and hate that I don't think any kind of "constitutional crisis" would last long in the ranks of the military. The fascist marinade has seeped into every nook and cranny here.
The whole world should be very, very worried.
Like [insert dystopian story here], but stupider. That seems to be the theme.
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Where are all the 2A folks? I thought this is what they were alive for? To take down a tyrannical government
they just say that because it sounds better than "I hope one day a black guy tries to break into my house so I can kill one"
Turns out they were mostly hoping to shoot liberals that were trying to kick down their doors to take guns and force them into a gay marriage.
They're all too busy making sure Hillary Clinton isn't using a private server for her email.
Christ ….i remember when people considered that “the worst bad thing”. You’ve come so far.
And by people, you mean the dumbest and worst people.
They just said that so all those murdered children wouldn't make their hobby slightly less convenient. You didn't actually believe them did you?
No, I just wanted to hear the mental gymnastics they use to justify it
I consider myself a Libertarian, so I am 2A, even though I voted Democrat in the last election. I don't think people need full auto AKs, rocket launchers, etc but something reasonable to be able to protect themselves. My biggest issue is, if guns were banned, the criminals aren't going to give theirs up, they don't give a crap if it's illegal to own one. I am also not opposed to reasonable background checks, make sure someone isn't delusional before they can buy a gun. Responsible gun owners (myself included) don't want to have to use our weapons against another human. Someone who thinks killing innocent people is "okay" needs mental help. I want to add: I am deeply troubled with what is going on in our country, this is a dangerous road we have started down, and we need to be prepared for what may come. I think tRump is only 2A because that's what his supporters expect, I could totally see him banning guns for everyone but his "loyalists"
most sane Libertarian take right here
As an outsider, its crazy to see other countries band together to go out and protest in the tens of thousands. Where are all the people? Is this really how america is just going to roll over and die? I was expecting more
They're deeply unserious about everything they scream about. They have no respect or serious connection with the US constitution. They only cling to the talking points like "the second amendment" because they know it gives them the right to be violent, and to the people who installed this man as shadow-president, they only care about having the right to hurt people they hate, and they hate a LOT of people.
Mark my words, if there's an executive leader that gives them the right to carry guns and hurt people, but discards the constitution, they will be first to piss on that document.
They lied it was all about having biggest peen
Fragile masculinity go brrr.
I don't know the English onomatopoeia for shattering glass. :(
Somewhere, Hillary Clinton is laughing.
I voted for her out of attempted harm reduction, and I agree, she probably is.
Wealthy neoliberals care as much about their fellow citizens as wealthy fascists, as they both have the same God they worship 💰
One appeals to pretending to care about people's well-being while taking bribes to hurt them, the other appeals to pretending to care about idiot bigot's blood lust while taking bribes to hurt them.
Yeah you're probably not far off. Similarly, I held my nose and voted for her as well. She was obviously the better choice, if only because her legacy was tied to a platform that at least on paper was significantly better than the alternative (e.g., climate change).
Alas I raise Hillary because of the double-standards of her buttery males versus this which is infinitely worse — yet, naturally, not a peep from conservative circles.
Because we know they're hypocrites and ends justify means to them.
Oh, they never cared at all about the emails. That was just to gin up outrage among stupid people. Otherwise, they would have gone after Republicans that did it first.
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It's a real shame that the headline isn't "Foreign hacker and his enabler in the White House arrested and imprisoned in solitary until they can be sent to Gitmo for life"
But her emails though, am I right guys?
My first thought when seeing the headline was “quick, somebody tell the conservatives that he’s using Hillary’s server to do it, then maybe something will happen!”
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It's been wild reading news stories coming out the US over the last couple of weeks.
Not the stories themselves of course, but the air of shock and alarm in both the stories and in the comment sections - and its not just Lemmy, its everywhere there's a comment section - when you knew what he was going to do, he told you what he was going to do - why are you now in any way surprised or disturbed?
The main question I have is that I've been hearing from Americans for decades now how gun ownership means you have a 2nd amendment based militia ready to go to protect the constitution and yet in the face of what is completely obviously the initial stages of a coup, I see no signs of that militia. Where are you?
It sounds like you are in a different country. Start getting involved in your politics to decouple from the USA and shield from its influence. It’s more urgent than it seems.
The outrage you see here from the US lemmings is the minority opinion. There is no internal force or opposition to what you see.
A third of the population think this is a good guy with ~~a gun~~ authoritarian power so this is great. A third of the population are complaining about how the Democrats aren't good enough to vote for in the midterms, and a third of the population are busy arguing with the other 2 thirds.
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There really was no plan at all about preventing fascists from just marching in and doing whatever they want, huh? We were just supposed to count on people to do the right thing? Surprised this didn't happen sooner, honestly.
Checks and balances.
Checks and balances.
Checks and balances.
Fascism and collapse.
Oops.
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Elon Musk needs to be charged, convicted, and hanged for treason against the republic.
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After this, is there any question that he didn't do something to hack vote counting machines? I'm feeling like this election wasn't legitimate.
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Who is paying these new doge employees? Settling up a new department takes time, getting everything reviewed, approved then signed off. Until they are an offical government dept they wouldn't have authority to do anything.
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