Ask Lemmy

Poverty and other lack of opportunity are how we target programs that elevate people toward equity.

Diversity is how we can objectively measure outcomes - whether people in positions of power are actually applying the above principles.

If you want us to talk you out of your position we need you to describe what exactly you think CRT and DEI actually are in your own words.

If you can invest your time in explaining those things as you understand them then I am willing to discuss it with you.

If you copy paste from the net I will call you out and take that as a hostile response.

Politically, focusing on class might be more expedient at getting results. Doesn't mean that correcting past wrongs isn't the morally correct thing to do.

Democracy is not just about voting. Democracy is not just about freedom to debate political topics. Democracy is also about being actualized in a way which allows you to advocate for yourself and your interests. This works both from a idealistic and functional perspective - egalitarian democracy is the "right" thing to do, but it also serves to help identify and remedy issues in specific communities before they become bigger problems.

The core thesis for progressive liberalism is that for a democracy to function properly, we should identify injustice and work to reduce it, so that marginalized communities have better access to these democratic primitives than they would otherwise. The idea is that this creates a proactive framework for dealing with problems, rather than a reactive one. Otherwise the Democratic process seems cursed to leap from big crisis to big crisis without any real strategy for working at smaller scales.

What is your current view?

The only people you mention "abusing" what you call the "well-meaning intentions" of "DEI" are:

a growing population of poor whites

As they are, as implied by your formulation, misinterpreting the policies as favoritism. It this what you meant with abuse?

I won't try to change your mind because I agree with you. Well I agree that's how many policies are implemented, not that DEI necessarily has to be implemented in such a way (putting the emphasis on poverty is also a type of DEI).

I attribute it to these ideas coming from the US. Americans have internalized racism so much that they are unable to think about people without categorizing them into a race. In a way it's a final manifestation of the "equal but separate" ideology. Races must remain separate no matter what, but we can talk about mechanisms balance the discrimination by applying discrimination in the other direction.

No.

Go find surface area to attack on DEI and CRT with your own brainwave.

Personally I find the meta-question more interesting than the question here. Your take is pretty much the majority one in any Western society today (albeit particularly thoughtfully expressed here). Personally I share your analysis right down the line. But you're asking to be talked out of it. Is it because you feel that it's not presentable here? Or maybe among your friends? Who perhaps might belong to the small minority (7%) of the US population that pollsters categorize as "progressive activists"? Just a thought.

In any case, steelmanning is a great technique to practice. Well done for having a go.