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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago

Because they are craven bitches?

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 hours ago

Because our entire professional class in the USA has little backbone. People in my life with higher incomes still seem to think this will blow over.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Because we're terrified that society is crumbling, so we try to follow rules to feel some kind of order.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 hours ago

Because he's letting them do what they've always wanted.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Money. Real lives are affected by defunding and losing your job in this economy.

Over 50% voted for this. Because news and social media are controlled by the oligarchs. And the smartest sociopaths for hire are crafting the propaganda strategy. So you're not even going to get a majority to back you up. Sanity and morality is now in the minority.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Please stop saying over 50% voted for this. A third of the electorate didn't vote. Yeah, fuck them, they could have stopped this, but it makes it sound like more than half of my country wants him to be president. More likely it's 30-40%

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What’s the difference between voting for Trump and not voting at all?

The way I see it if you didn’t vote at all then not only do you not care about the outcome but you’re accepting Trump as the result.

If you didn’t vote then you are the problem. You’re the same problem as the people who voted for him.

So ya if you didn’t vote then you wanted this no different then those who voted. Over 50% of the country either voted for him or accepted him as the winner.

If you didn’t want him as president then you should have voted. You are just as much to blame for this happening. Stop trying to act like you’re innocent.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I agree with you that an unused or third party vote is effectively a vote for Trump. I wouldn't say those people are the same, even though the outcome is. People who voted in 2020 and didn't this time around are probably feeling how badly they fucked up. And I hope they feel like shit.

Meanwhile MAGA is crowing from the rooftops about the dismantling of democracy. If you're not wealthy and you voted for Trump, you fucked up badly. Most will realize it at some point, but it's already too late. Even the midterms are two years away, and look what's been done in two weeks. That Constitution they claim to love more than life itself has been ripped up and thrown to the ground under fascist boots.

The ridiculous purity genocide Joe shit hit way harder than I thought it would. Yeah I wish he hadn't gone full bore on support for Palestinian genocide. Anyone with a conscience knows it was evil. But if you're a leftist or progressive of any stripe, you've been voting for the lesser of two evils your entire adult life. What made this one different really? Every US President causes innocent people to be killed.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

More likely it's 30-40%

The same hitler got

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The ones that didn't vote accepted any outcome, they are complicit

But the strategy for dealing with them is different.
I understand that you're upset and scared, but we need solutions now, not squabbling.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It was also less than 50% of voters

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

That's true, but in the liberal mindset, the majority gives you the moral mandate (liberal as in capitalist democracy, not derogatory). That the news and social media is owned and controlled by the oligarchs doesn't matter to the liberal mindset. Even cheating like gerrymandering didn't trigger riots and hanging of the culprits. It doesn't matter that they promised one thing but lied, that has been accepted for decades also.

So within this mindset the majority spoke and has the mandate for this crap. Practically morality is determined by who has the most money / power. We accepted that greed is good. So it doesn't matter that the election was cheated, elections in the US have always been a farce, a spectacle. But it is effective to get those institutions in line.

So I agree with you and think all the US elections in the last 50 years were illegitimate. But those institutions don't, they simply follow this liberal mindset.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

What do you think of this? He lists his credentials at the end of the article.

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I thought blaming everyone but themselves was a conservative thing. People need to accept they voted for this, and need to do better next time (or now. Do better now).

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

Seems unlikely that there will be a next time.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Pretending that you lost because everyone else is too stupid to understand is counterproductive and will result in future losses. If your position is best for the majority of voters then you should be able to effectively convey that message to the masses. If you are unable to do that then obviously you are not as knowledgeable as you believe.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 63 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Some are cowards even if they do care.

Some have always secretly agreed but were afraid to act on it.

Some are just apathetic as long as it doesn't directly affect them.

But the bigesst reason? Money.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well, they just cut every research university in the country’s money by limiting facilities and administration funding on science grants to 15% (with a few exceptions possible, if approved, presumably by Elon Musk).

Basically, a $1,000,000 grant to a research scientist comes with a corresponding payment to the university to build whatever is needed and run the lab. It’s usually close to 50% because research labs aren’t cheap. And with few exceptions, private companies don’t really fund basic research labs like they used to. (There is, obviously, a lot of private sector R&D but nothing like back in the day when Bell Labs, Xerox PARC, etc. were doing revolutionary work.)

[–] Mr_Canard@jlai.lu 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So basically the Brain Drain towards the US will slow down, maybe China will take over

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Slow down? Shit is going to start flowing the opposite way. The brain drain from the US has begun.

They want a stupid populace, they're going to get one. And it will probably end up killing us all.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The people who are smart enough to be able to get jobs else where are also smart enough to see the writing on the wall of an anti-intellectual admin. The us is only going to get dumber, which is the goal for the gop.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 37 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Fear. But people need to realize that capitulation only makes this political terrorism stronger. The only solution is solidarity. United we are much stronger than this administration.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago
[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

Because people haven't learned not to play Trump's games by Trump's rules. Appeasement not only makes him come back for more, he makes him believe that it's his by birthright.

Because Trump wields an inordinate amount of power and can have his decrees backed up by use of retaliatory executive action such as firings or pulling funding, retaliatory legislative action, or use of force.

Because Trump wields sizeable support in this country, up to and including militia groups that Trump has already pardoned once and lone-wolf actors willing to commit violence on his behalf, and they do not have support of equal measure willing to defend them.

Because they still have faith in what is left of our legislative and justice system and are still holding on to the hope that everybody will come to their senses and all of this can still be solved legislatively without having to resort to any kind of resistance or violence, no matter how increasingly fleeting that hope is.

Because the people that run these institutions are all just regular people with regular jobs and regular families who just want to go home at the end of the day, and have absolutely no desire to become the John Connor of the resistance movement.

[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago

Some of them couldn’t wait to lick his boots.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Because we're probably the least liked minority groups.