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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago

So the cartels, who profit directly from the high demand of drugs by Americans, were given weapons, by Americans, to meet that demand of drugs. They then essentially hijacked the mexican government with those guns and violence in order to keep their drug supply available to Americans, meanwhile destroying hope for peaceful life for many many towns and people in mexico. But it's the Mexicans trying to escape those problems, once again created by demand in the US, who are the problem?

How very fucking American.

You know who doesn't have a fentanyl problem? Mexico. They're not the ones creating demand.

I'm simplifying, I know, but I'm very fucking tired of Mexicans and South Americans being blamed as if the US hadn't fucked the entire country and almost the entire South American continent over for the last 50 years.

I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here but fuck man I'm just tired.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yeah and not just guns that are smuggled abroad from the US. Most illegal guns in Europe come from former wars, stolen out of abandoned and badly secured depots. The balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan. And once the war in Ukraine is over many unused weapons will flow into the European criminal circuit.

The entire Military Industrial Complex is making the world more dangerous even during peace time.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 hours ago

Buckle up because guess what, George W Bush implemented the gun smuggling into Mexico with a plan called "Fast and Furious"

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Most places, if not all places there's a war, there are American weapons. Remember all the people coming after the American soldiers in Black Hawk Down, well they used American weapons.

[–] bigpEE@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean? The popular image is of the Somali militias using Soviet-designed weapons. AKs and such

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

USA is an arms dealer cosplaying as a country.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Reminder that as of 2025, the US is the only country with more privately owned guns than people, at 120.5 guns per 100 people... The 2nd highest is the Falkland Islands at 62.1 guns per 100 people.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

lol git gud Falkland Islands

But, seriously, that's not great.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do the Falklands count as a country? I'm not sure what the situation is there.

Also, New Zealand is pretty high up on the list.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

They're self-governing, which I guess is enough.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Seriously though, what the fuck is the civilian excuse for guns on the Falklands? The only native natural predator that could hurt the sheep is long extinct. I guess they're afraid the sheep will have a revolution.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Might be due to the conflicts with Argentina? Honestly not sure.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

If the Argentine army lands, drafting the sheep and giving them guns isn't going to stop an occupation any more than it did before.

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 118 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Wrong. I don't know why Jay Hulme feels the need to lie but there is more than one gun store in Mexico.

A quick look at Wikipedia clearly shows that there are actually two gun stores.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

That's 100% more than OP said! Absolutely crazy, how could they do this?

[–] ziviz@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Even easier and faster; a quick look at google maps presents a list, their locations, hours of operation....

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

All but the first one are airsoft gun stores.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 11 hours ago

They do get many from straw purchases here, which is already illegal can get you 10+yr in federal prison.

But also they get a fuckton of full auto guns that are illegal here from the mexican military's corrupt members, and other sources like china, somehow they get explosives too including south korean grenades have been found which is wild, and the best is Operation Fast & Furious, where the ATF just directly sold them a bunch of AKs "to track" and then surprise! "lost" them. They get em from multiple sources.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 27 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure if I'd really use the troubles as a defense against the proliferation of personal ownership of firearms........

Kinda hard to claim you've been "radicalized" by denying other radicalized individuals the ability to fight off a oppressive foreign government with a long history of genocidal tyranny against your entire ethnicity.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

... most of witch regimes were set up and funded (weapons too) by the USA or Russia. Usually they were terrorist groups before forming a formal government. And the problem being that the status quo is usually the most profitable and politically beneficial (gives the mentioned colonisers more direct power over the de fuckto marionette countries).

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 283 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Because screenshots of what someone said on social media aren't journalism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico

Mexico has restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

[–] Gingernate@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

Go to the US, buy a gun at a gun show, put it in your trunk and drive back. Done in 1 day. Holy shit

[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 91 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

So you’re saying it’s easier to get a gun in Mexico than a RTX 5000 GPU in the US

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, but guns are safer, not even a real fire hazard.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 46 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

You really shouldn't be spending your money on either

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 54 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

nah. You should probably buy a gun now if you aren't a danger to yourself.

EDIT: Assuming you are in the US or its neighbours.

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[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 90 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Something like 85% of guns used in crimes in Canada are smuggled from the US

[–] Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

Sounds to me like someone should build a barrier of some sort to keep all those undesirables from the south out of their country.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 30 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We had to arm the drugs in the War on Drugs to make it a real fight.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

It's by design.
A lot of effort went into it and it's a lot of effort to maintain such systems. You need PR along with movie studios, politicians on local, country, and global levels, lobbyists, para-gov agencies (like police unions), judges, etc. It's a business full of people that do what they can to advance it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 58 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Too fast, too furious...

https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html

The craziest thing cartels buying guns in America and smuggling them into Mexico isnt that the US government was selling to people they thought were smugglers.

It's that the people at the gun store are doing the same shit people are doing all over the place.

The used gun market is insane, I know a couple people that constantly buy new guns and sell them less than a year later. They don't question why some person is willing to buy $200 over new price for a used gun.

And the way the law is structured, that's in their best interest.

If a random person walks up and asks to buy a gun, you don't have to ask any other questions as a "private seller" and since you can only get in trouble if you know that person can't own a gun, the less questions the better.

The "private sale" loophole makes every other gun law just a slight hassle to get around. But no one wants to actually close it.

Edit:

It also incentives those sales.

No gun store will pay as much as someone who can't buy from a gun store.

So to make sure someone ends up with that can legally have it, the seller loses money.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 32 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Smuggled? The DEA was shipping them direct at one point.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

For the curious.

Not literally shipping them, but setting up a sting that never stung. Ironically to stop the flow of illegal guns.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago

What a quaint scandal compared to what we see on an hourly basis these days.

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 7 hours ago

This is the plot of Iron Man

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why need more gun store when the biggest gun store in the world is right above you? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 28 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe per city? I know there's one single gun shop where I live but not for the entire country? Lol

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

There are two in the whole country. Finding that odd shows a very Americanized view where gun are ubiquitous instead of controlled which is the exact point of this article.

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Are there most likely small illegal shops? Absolutely. But he is correct. There is only one single legal firearms store in mexico city and is run by the military

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