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Emergency crews are responding to a crash involving a Delta Air Lines plane that arrived Monday at Toronto Pearson Airport from Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, ultimately landing upside down amid wintry conditions.

The FAA says all 80 people on board Flight 4819, operated by Endeavor Air, were evacuated.

Peel Regional Paramedic Services confirmed to CBS News that 15 patients had been transported to the hospital. Out of those injuries, one child and two adults are critically injured. The rest of the injuries are minor to moderate, officials said. 

All crew and passengers have been accounted for.

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[–] Noedel@lemmy.world 131 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This has not been a good year for aviation and we're barely two months in

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Don't worry! I'm sure president Musk cutting staff at the understaffed FAA will reduce accidents!

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 94 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I hate to link them, but video of the outside of the plane - https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1irthzm/all_survived_video_from_passenger_on_board/

Everyone walked away. How the hell do you land a plane upside down?

[–] Grabthar@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago

This whole thing is giving me serious Front Fell Off vibes.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How the hell do you land a plane upside down?

Professional Microsoft Simulator skillz!

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago

They clearly just used slew mode

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[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is completely unverified, but I heard it happened while the plane was taxiing. Just a freakishly strong crosswind picking up a light plane.

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[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not quite walked away. Nobody died on the scene, but two adults and a child were critically injured. Here's hoping they recover from their injuries.

As to the cause, I can only speculate until the flight data is available, but I suspect it had something to do with the wind conditions. They were recording gust speeds up to 37 mph which is pretty high and at the very least could cause an uncomfortable landing. If they got a higher gust or the wind direction suddenly shifted, it could cause the plane to experience uneven lift. One wing goes high and the other dips. If this happens just as the plane is touching down it's nearly impossible for the pilot to correct.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not everyone walked away. Some may have suffered life-altering injuries.

Peel Regional Paramedic Services confirmed to CBS News that 15 patients had been transported to the hospital. Out of those injuries, one child and two adults are critically injured. The rest of the injuries are minor to moderate, officials said.

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[–] easydnesto@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Must have been one hell of a wind shear to cause the plane to flip before touch down.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 63 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Actually, when a plane feels safe and trusts its pilots it will show you its belly in a display of vulnerability to communicate its feelings.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Did it? I think if it flips before landing, it's not very likely to walk away from that.

In the thread on the site that shall not be named, people were speculating that it touched down, skidded off the runway due to the high winds, one wing caught the ground, sheared off, then it rolled over.

Seems plausible to me, but I know next to nothing about aviation, so take my opinion with a large pinch of salt.

[–] easydnesto@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Seems more likely scenarios for the wingstrike after touchdown. From the video the plane is on asphalt which is crazy to me. Given how straight the fuselage is, I’m still boggled how it ended upside down with as little damage shown on the fuselage.

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[–] sma3in@lemmy.world 75 points 4 days ago (3 children)

wtf is happening to all the planes all of a sudden? crazy year for aviation

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well this one got confused when talking to the air traffic controller. They said eh, and he mistook it as Australia. By the time he heard them say sorry it was tits up.

Edit: well shit... I heard they were all safe and now I am seeing not everyone might be okay, so now I feel like an ass

[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Sardonic humor is practically a necessity for survival at this point. Really glad that this wasn't a high lethality crash.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe we’re losing the will to maintain the high standards they require.

Or maybe the knowledge?

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

There’s been a pilot shortage for years.

So the FAA reduced the requirements for being a flight instructor. There were a bunch of shitty flight instructors which led to a lot of private pilot incidents.

I think we’re seeing the results of those shitty instructor’s students becoming commercial pilots at the same time that the seasoned pilots are leaving for retirement or cushy private roles for corporations and the wealthy.

So it’s mainly an experience thing. Most industries run on the experience of a small group that guides new workers until they’re experienced enough to keep things moving. This is what happens when there’s not enough seasoned workers to guide all of the new employees coming in. The same thing is happening in the trades, where a lot of industry knowledge is being poorly passed down due to all of the old guard retiring at the same time as their replacements are being hired. It’s anecdotal, but I’ve heard from friends who manage facilities departments at major hospitals that there’s a lot of barely running equipment because they’ve only got a handful of people, and only 1 or 2 experienced people, trying to maintain entire campuses.

Overworked, inexperienced employees will make mistakes. And unfortunately for them, they no longer have the opportunity to learn from experienced workers before they are thrust into critical roles.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Clusters appear in random data sets

[–] ecvanalog@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m glad everybody was ok, especially since the actual image of the fully-upside-down plane is so cool and I would feel bad enjoying it otherwise.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Three people critically injured ie. Not ok

[–] EFrances 4 points 3 days ago

Update: 19 of 21 people released from hospital; 2 remaining hospitalized passengers did not face life-threatening injuries.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/delta-air-lines-said-most-passengers-toronto-plane-crash-released-hospital-2025-02-18/

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I forgot how much I'm angry at George Lucas

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Still better than Disney.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We should have a law dictating that airplanes shall not ever land upside down!

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

what? and ban all flights to australia?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Darn! We might need a midway switch of airplane orientation.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

The plane landed right side up and then flipped over.

We should have a law that planes aren't allowed to flip over.

[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The fuck is going on with planes lately?

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

Removal of regulation and QA cause of profit

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Fascist destruction of agencies.

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[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The FAA says all 80 people on board Flight 4819, operated by Endeavor Air, were evacuated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeYwa-DCiWk

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Literally my go-to direction for when I need to use "evacuate".

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

After seeing video from several different angles it looks like there was no landing flare. The plane drove straight into the runway. The CRJ tends to land “flatter” than many aircraft, but the mains and nose touch almost simultaneously even with the compression of the main strut. That’s not right at all. We’ll have to wait and see if there was a shear or something that caused a loss of airspeed where the pilots kept the nose down, or whether it was just a crew fuckup, new pilot in the aircraft, whatever.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it looks like there was a slight roll just before touching down that put all the weight on one set of wheels. The wheels just seemed to collapse. Maybe it was the lack of flare or a structural failure on the landing gear? It definitely didn't look like it flared at all.

The failure was because of the lack of arresting the sink rate with a flare. I sincerely doubt it was a structural issue inherent with the aircraft, but the investigation will reveal what happened. The NTSB and the Canadian TSB will sort it out.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Trump's fault

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 4 days ago

How does a plane get infected with Minneapolis? We shoupd make sure this doesn't spread like bird flu.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Rolled over like a puppy

[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 4 days ago

Barrel roll!

Too soon?

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