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Ramaswamy Claims ‘Faith-Based Approaches’ Are ‘Better Ways’ to Treat Mental Illness Than Medication (www.mediaite.com)

submitted 11 months ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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He gets so close-

Violent crime has risen over precisely the period we have shuttered these psychiatric institutions. And you know what? The number one psychiatric institution today is jail. It’s prison. And they don’t do a very good job. And now you then get the calls to clear the jails or to have commuting of sentences or shortening of sentences. People leave those jails in a worse psychiatric condition, often, than when they even entered.

Yes! Yes!

We can do this again learning from past mistakes without those abuses. I don’t think I want to be pumping psychiatric institutions with pharmaceuticals into people.

Seems reasonable.

Faith-based approaches – there are better ways to do this.

Oh for fuck's sake.

And, of course, the ironic thing is that Ramaswamy is a pharma bro.

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 128 points 11 months ago

Ramasmarmy saying whatever he thinks the Republican base wants to hear. So weird seeing him bet all in on a base that despises him.

[-] nutbiggums@lemmy.ml 58 points 11 months ago

He hasn't figured out that he will never win because he isn't white

[-] teft@startrek.website 45 points 11 months ago

He probably considers himself white since he isn’t a black man meanwhile the republicans will never see him as anything but non-white. It’s similar thought processes to the South American neo nazis.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

We had a Sri Lankan family friend who got incensed when anyone suggested he wasn't white. It was odd.

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[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

It's working so far for him. He's the rising star in the party. I'm sure there is a portion of the republican electorate that would like to vote for a brown person so they can use it as "evidence" that they aren't racist. Just like when they claimed racism was over when Obama got elected.

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[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago

That’s fucking dumb, people kill each other over religion every single day in staggering numbers. Maybe they can institute a program that has speakers from the IRA and the Taliban come in to talk about strong faith.

I cant believe grown adults believe in fairy tales, it’s absolute insanity.

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

At the end of Peter Pan, the Lost Boys along with Wendy and the other kids are tied to a mast while Captain Hook monologues at them. Peter has pushed Tinkerbell away, and she's fading out of existence. It seems all hope is lost.

But then Peter gets an idea and begins to chant. "I do believe in fairies, I do, I do." Soon, they're all chanting it together. "I DO believe in fairies! I DO I DO!"

And Tinkerbell pops back into existence to save the day. This is what faith is. The idea that if you believe in something hard enough it will pop into existence.

Of course, it's a fantasy story for children. I can't believe grown adults think it's true, either. It's absolute insanity, agreed. But that's where Republicans have to meet their constituents, who apparently live in Never Never Land.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago

This guy is an even bigger shill than Turd Cruz. He made his money in pharma, his wife is a physician. And yet here he is shilling for FaiTH BaSeD CuRE.

Fuck off Vivek

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Ironically, his name means conscience.

He's got none.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 45 points 11 months ago

Fuck George W Bush forever for popularizing "faith based" as a euphemism for people forcing their religion on others.

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[-] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 39 points 11 months ago

Religion is a mental illness.

[-] ackzsel@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago

Religion is about control and people exploiting this are 100% sane and know exactly what they're doing. That's the scary part.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago

Religion is about control

Turns out that if you can convince people that unless they behave in a certain way and follow a specific set of rules, they'll be dropped into a burning lake of fire when they die, they are pretty easy to manipulate.

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[-] Binthinkin@kbin.social 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just what we need, another fake ass politician, billionaire, douche bag lying to Christians.

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[-] keropoktasen@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

So you treat mental illness with another form of mental illness?

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

Belief in fake gods has never been the solution.

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

I'm so sick of these narcissistic cunts who will say and do virtually anything for attention and graft.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

YOU started a pharmaceutical company. Shut the fuck up. Your face is as big as Charlie's. Seriously, there must be some sort of correlation between right-wing vitriol and small faces because holy fuck.

[-] jerome@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

lol. Nobody trusts a right winger.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

So now these dipshits are unironically and very seriously borrowing from the Scientology playbook…? And here I thought religion in America couldn’t get any worse.

[-] FReddit@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Moron.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Bruh isn't his wife a doctor lmao

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm sure there are plenty of doctors with little to no respect/understanding of mental health.

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[-] incendiaryperihelion@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

Only someone who is (probably) comfortably insulated from the reality that real people face in crises could say something so inane

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

It’s kind of like the joke “if alternative medicine worked, it would just be called medicine”.

A faith-based approach could also be called a hypothesis-based approach: the only thing that distinguishes it from a scientific approach is that it is a hypothesis that either hasn’t been tested or has failed the scientific method.

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[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Vivek is wrong. Mental health should be taken seriously.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

What a fucking idiot

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

So his big plan is to just tell everyone, "Y'all need Jesus!"?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Apparently. Except he's a Hindu, so who knows?

[-] Murais@lemmy.one 13 points 11 months ago

He's a pick-me. It's still Jesus.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I want to just say. Get fucked. Thank you, that is all.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

It always amuses me when people try to recommend faith or faith based healing to cure their medical or mental health problems.

How is faith based healing any different from using the placebo effect on someone by giving them a sugar pill and telling them it'll help cure their illness? Only difference I can see is you are replacing the pill with God, another placebo.

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[-] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Sick that they would blatantly lie to try and increase conversions.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

He’s worse than being a card-carrying member of the religious right, he’s an ass-kissing suck-up to the religious right.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

So we can safely infer he's not appropriately medicated? That explains a lot.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Sir you have a minority religion in this country. Do you think religion is irrelevant to this or are you hoping a bunch of Americans get shipped off to Vishnu camp when we get depressed?

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Isn't he s pharma guy?

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Ramaswamy is a pharma bro.

Seems not to be the greatest salesman from my point of view. Unless he sells faith in a vial.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

He's selling himself for a job in Trump's cabinet, so he's a better salesman than you think. He's already rich off the pharma investments. I just like the irony.

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