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Iirc, it’s been said that the reason for them to ditch CarPlay is so that they can add their own infotainment system where they can charge for subscriptions.

It’s not a technological problem, it’s a “we want to extract every penny out of our customers” problem.

And no way can GM beat Apple or Android at a car interface.

Poor marketing from GM, Google, and most automakers. A lot of the interfaces are still gonna be Android-based, they're dropping Android Auto not Android Automotive. Android Automotive being the actual OS that most car infotainment displays come with these days, and is made by Google. Android Auto is just the ability to connect your phone and project it to the display.

Still a shit move, but GM has nowhere near the capability to actually build a good infotainment OS from the ground up.

I can't speak for the licensing costs of Android Auto or Apple CarPlay, I have no idea what they are.

But I do work in the automotive industry as an engineer. The sentiment is very much that it's about getting customer subscriptions and customer data, to build recurring revenue streams that wouldn't be possible if people are able to just use their phone and its apps on their infotainment display.

GM at least I know is sticking to Android Automotive, which is built by Google and they pay for anyway. Android Auto and Carplay are just additional functionality built on top of Android Automotive (the naming is bad - Android Automotive is the Google Android-based OS for car displays, Android Auto is the projection tech/api), they're quite literally removing existing features on a product they're already paying for.

I highly doubt Google is giving them a huge discount to cut those features, and if they are getting any it's dwarfed by how much they want to make through subscription services to use your car.

I did this in my 2012 Tundra and having the option of Car Play or Android Auto is so nice. Having Waze navigate, PlexAmp stream my music and have all that info on the display is awesome. Meanwhile my wife's 2015 Rav4 has outdated, out of support navigation and slow as hell interface. I'd love to replace it too, but I'll have to see if replacing it breaks any of the cars other functions. I've used Crutchfield the past three I've replaced. Put in your car model and they will add everything you need to get it going.

Seeing so many brands (especially GM) with their full LCD displays, I know those will eventually have some kind of problem. It's insane to me to have those be the main panel display. I can't imagine the cost to replace them or if you can even get the parts in 5-10 years.

Exactly.

Porsche also refused to enable Android Auto on their vehicles for a very long time because Google were making outrageous demands for vehicle telemetry information as part of licensing agreements.

Did google or Porsche cave in?

Newer (>2018) Teslas have phone key via BT LE. It's a game changer. I haven't carried keys in over five years between a keypad lock on the front door, garage door opener, and phone key.

I think he’s referring to CarPlay seconds generation which Apple announced last year and will completely change the way CarPlay works

100% agree. I still have a 40” 1080p dumb tv because I can’t find one that I trust to not do something annoying/invasive.

I nearly bought the same one my friend has (Samsung something) as it seemed pretty inoffensive, until he told me it had started showing ads on the menu screens a few months after he bought it.

You can just take the subsidized TV and never connect it to the internet.