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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 27 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Grand, just grand. Thousands of dead soldiers, women, and children and for what? For a dementia patient rapist asshole president puppet to just switch the US from a mildly so so hero country to a suspectable place that creates concentration camps and jails people in them permanently. OMG! And the Republicans are just thrilled to watch it all burn down. I don't understand. None of this even makes any sense at all. Hello! Nazi=bad remember? You hang nazis, you don't give them government offices!

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

US from a mildly so so hero country to a suspectable place that creates concentration camps and jails people in them permanently

Ok hold on a sec there, I agree these developments are awful but the US was never a hero country and has been illegally permanently jailing and torturing people for decades, besides all the couping democratically elected governments, murdering native people, not letting go of slavery, and so on and so on.

No, Putin has orchestrated the fall of the USA from a competent evil superpower to an incompetent evil large power.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

You know what? I agree. I guess what I meant to say was that the US stopped being too open about our evil doings. Usually we mask things...the war on drugs, the civil rights movement acceptance. The Vietnam war was much more out in the open. Shock and awe and fucking 20 years of combat in civilian cities and encampments. The USA hasn't really every been real nice. We just haven't been evil openly. But now we're doing it. We just had our coming out president. Hello world! You guessed it! We're evil!

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 18 hours ago

You don't understand that it has always been the hyper capitalist agenda, after Soviet fell since then Russia has chosen capitalism and now it's a super hyper capitalist union where corporations are worshipped as post human entities and is governed by their demonic rage fueled consumption that supports the exponential growth. It will always attack when exponential growth seems impossible and eat something new. Both superpowers are fully enslaved by these entities and no one person or even billionaire is its master. As soon as someone doesn't comply, the megacorp "restructures" and swaps out the used up humans replacing them with new human puppets that are oh so eager to prove they are loyal only to the growth and not to humanity. No one lasts. But the entity is timeless and has no other directive than to grow mercilessly and without compassion. It chooses only the most psychopathic humans to do its more important biddings. This is the model that has scientifically ruined the happiness and standards of living for anyone living in close proximity to the host state, and several orders of magnitude worse for the states that control the resources the entity requires. Where policy has made people improve in happiness and welfare, a complicated propaganda machine relentlessly works to entice the population that the capitalist model is prevailing. Its main weapon becomes apathy and subjugation via hypnosis, bathing the children and young adults minds in dopamine, creating an imbalance where the will to act or improve gets overshadowed by the immediate injections of entertainment at any time of leisure until they should work again in the morning. The megacorps needs humanity only to serve and reproduce in an orderly fashion while longing for the next flush of seratonin they are allowed. We seem to be unable to resist this most of us, some know intuitively we shouldn't because we get sick and die, but we have no biological mechanism to defend ourselves with, it's easy to hijack the mind of someone that is not struggling. A pacified mind is easy to abuse. But when struggles begin, if it doesn't happen in designated war zones, it's terrorism. Most men that cannot take this conveniently travel to the nearest proxy war and participate in slaying like minded boys and girls. The entities have since long ago been ascended to have more rights than humans, and their acolytes that keep it impervious are called lawyers and lobbyists, whose sole purpose is to secure the consumption of the planet so nothing can stop it. The most zealous and ruthless are promoted so they can feel responsible for the exponential infinite growth. It is the working class, the pacified masses, that are the biggest threat to them. When they decide to strike or boycott, they can topple entities in one stroke. Often the officers will abandon the entity and merge or plant new growths as the ecosystem is perfect for them right now.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 19 hours ago

I think they carefully calculated when the sofa apathy had ripened into a fully paralysing inability to protest or act due to deep hypnosis. They don't need to be afraid. Nobody is reacting. They test what they can get away with and made this plan. The oligarchy has been installed now

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 5 points 21 hours ago

Trump’s Oval Office tantrum signals the US is auditioning for a role in Putin’s entourage.

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don't think Putin is an idiot. If he does like what Trump is doing, why would he say it and potentially make things harder for him? Putin must know that quite a few Republicans (whether they have the spine to say it or not) are at least uneasy about "aligning" with Russia. So why?

Is it a "whatcha gonna do about it" sort of power move? Is he trying to delay these "peace talks" because he actually wants to end things with Ukraine while Trump is effectively holding Zelensky's arms behind his back?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Putin must know that quite a few Republicans (whether they have the spine to say it or not) are

Quite a few? Doubtful. Maybe 2? 3? If we're talking behind closed doors: maybe a handful more, but it doesn't really matter since they're all terrified of him, and would just resign instead of stand up to him about literally anything.

For Christ sake, Marco Rubio is looking like Trump just subtly showed him a photo of his secret love child that was under the cheesesteak he was eating from the restaurant in the photo, and made heavy implications.

But that's probably giving him too much credit to be honest.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

No… like with Trump, his statements are for an internal audience.

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 125 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Honestly this is insane to me given the Trump crowd skews much older.

Literally the generation growing up in the Cold War, having evil Soviets ingrained in them from childhood, and now Russia being happy with our policies doesn't raise a red flag for them? Our President being pals with the ex-KGB Putin doesn't mean anything to them? Hello??

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It blows my mind. My family is all military in one branch or another, so they not only heard all the propaganda of the red scare but actually trained to fight Ivan…now they’re voting R and saying Moscow is right. Wtf happened to this timeline‽

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Roger Ailes happened. Mark Zuckerberg happened.

Fox News and social media have rotted this country to the core.

Same story for my family.

I guess some people never learn from past mistakes.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

I feel like the number of old boomer types to young white 'alpha' males is a little bit more balanced now in his fan base. Rogan-raised boys don't understand or care about history.

The Republican brain just always does what it's told, believes what it's told, etc. It accepts whatever witches it's told to hate and hunt and it requires fear to operate. It doesn't care what it's afraid of or whether its targets are logical or coherent. It just operates on orders.

[–] WarlockoftheWoods@lemy.lol 84 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Let me tell you what I learned living around rednecks my entire life. They are the exact same as deer. They are dumb, they have no ability to have foresight, to think ahead or to plan. They just exist. My wife calls them NPCs. They go to work, breed constantly without thinking about money, drink beer, buy a truck and hate strangers. That's all they know how to do so anything that any republican says, is blindly followed. They also mostly believe they are good Christians regardless of their deeds as long as they go to church. Religious people are the most easily manipulated of us so this is right up their alley. They are taught to follow and not question. I'm very much sure that a large majority of them don't have inner voices or a concept of critical thinking. Just like deer, they just BE.

[–] relic_@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Maybe a controversial take on Lemmy to defend religious people but here goes. I don't think it's fair to place the blame on these people. I think for the most part, they are doing the best they can with the skills and capacity they have. None of these people, who you are denigrating by comparing them to literal animals, are born terrible people.

So ask yourself, who is to blame. Is it the fearful, working class person to the left of you in the store? Is it your neighbor who is fearful of transgender people because they don't understand them? Or perhaps the family down the road struggling to make ends meet and don't have the capacity understand the real cause of their struggle.

Or is it the media culture that constantly instills fear and hate into them. And the church that no longer preaches godly values, but is instead filled with grifters and charlatans. The rednecks are not the cause of the US turmoil, they are not your enemy. What is the difference between a redneck and someone with a successful career? Opportunity. Care. Support. Anyone can be successful with support.

It is the capital class that seeks to sow fear, hatred, and division because thats the only way they can retain power. A united working class is an existential threat to their existence. The "dumb rednecks" are vulnerable and hurting and they have been exploited. Place your hate where it is deserved, the ultra wealthy, who for decades have been allowed outsized influence to manipulate the people of the US.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I'm sorry, through some unfortunate events, I currently live in redneck land. There are some decent people here but they are a minority and usually people who are young/born there or too poor to escape (me).

The vast majority of people here choose to live in the middle of nowhere however and it shows. They're paranoid, stupid, delusional, prejudiced, etc. Every time I've tried friendly conversations with them at various watering holes, they end up disliking me for bullshit prejudicial reasons. They literally tell me that I'm showing off by using big words or say I'm a weakling faggot or whatever else.

I commute into a small city for work for a pretty humdrum low paying office job and the people here are a million fucking times nicer and smarter and just as "working class" as the rural chuds.

[–] WarlockoftheWoods@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago

Same dude, I'm a city boy, well traveled, ex air force, and literally nearly get into fist fights with these fucking hicks if I go to a local bar. We just drink at home or when we go to the city, that's it. Can't stand these mfs, I wouldn't even live here if I didn't get the best deal ever on the biggest house in town. There is not a single tolerable person in this town that I have met. I met people that like me, but then they do like coke once a month.... who tf does that? Or just ramble and you can't get a word in, it's fucking crazy.

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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 174 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Who knew it would be easier to conquer America than it would be to conquer Ukraine...

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Russia first tried to conquer Ukraine through political meams, but his puppet was removed in 2014...

I wonder if this will mean the eventual removal of Trump by the people, then attempts from Russia at trying to take back Alaska within the chaos.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

step one. let them do it for us

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 40 points 2 days ago

People that can see and think for themselves.

Note: this excludes a massive portion of US citizens.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 103 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

With Zelenskyy saying the end of the war may be very far off, it looks like Ukraine is preparing to go ahead without US aid, rather than be pressured to give in to Russian ultimatums.

The most likely scenario is a combination of heavier weapons from the EU & UK plus the same printed weapons Myanmar rebels are using. There's a great episode of It Could Happen Here that covers how much 3D printers are being used there.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/how-to-build-a-revolution-myanmar-104249884/

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

We'll see if he can hold out if/when we lift our sanctions on Russia and start allowing the transfer of everything they need to rebuild their military hardware. Or even worse, selling them our own weapons.

EDIT: And now around three hours after I posted this, White House announces directive to drop sanctions. gg

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, whats the alternative? Unconditional surrender?

As I see it, here's the 3 options:

Bend the knee to trump, give up your resources, and keep your country with no security guarantee worth a damn, just to lose your country later. And not just the lack of credible security guarantees, but specifically agreeing to never join the one alliance that would give such a guarantee.

Bend the knee to Putin, and just let Russia annex Ukraine fully, therefore avoiding a war in the unspecified future.

Go at it with or without US support.

If you were the leader of your country, how much of your land and resources would you give away in the pursuit of temporary peace, knowing that it is only temporary?

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I didn't say it was the wrong choice. Just that now it is more of an uphill battle than ever, perhaps with exception of the first month or so of the conflict.

Europe needs to step up and quickly.

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[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

Churchill kept fighting Nazis when it was hopeless and parliament was trying to force him to surrender because he said that 1. Surrender would get the UK no better terms (true here, also) and 2. Countries which go down fighting survive as countries. (I mean in the hearts and minds of people, not just on a map). Countries which surrender, don't.

Putin can't be trusted. Without security guarantees, it's surrender. Even with security guarantees from this current US administration, I wouldn't trust any agreement, since trump isn't trustworthy either. There needs to be troops from all over the EU in UKraine, as well as US troops. Either that or give Ukraine nuclear weapons.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I never had the U.S. switching sides on my bingo card. I thought at most they would stop providing aid and support. Trumps policies were very isolationist in his first term.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I never had the U.S. switching sides on my bingo card.

I don't know why anyone was caught flatfooted by this when it was clear to anyone paying attention that if Trump was elected, his plan to end the war was to hand control of Ukraine over to Russia.

This was as obvious and predictable as the January 6th insurrection.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Wait, really?

Dude holds a grudge like an absolute motherfucker, in addition to being a complete shitbag. He is vindictive as all fuck. The second the war started, my immediate reaction is “Putin is gonna drag this out till the election, and hope (read: influence the election so) that Trump wins”. Not to mention, officials in his first administration had to talk him down from leaving NATO multiple times, apparently. This whole thing was in the playbook from the get-go, imo.

He’s isolationist (or “evangelical”, or “a hawk”, or what have you) so long as it serves his interests - and I mean specifically HIS interests. He is a malignant narcissist. He does not actually care about anyone outside of himself

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[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Congrats, murica, you sure owned the libs

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Confirming as a (non American) dirty immigrant LGBT lib, I have been owned.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, funny story. I like to joke that I'm prescient.

In 3rd Grade, about the year 2000, I heard a news story about Vladimir Putin. This was long before I understood fuck and all about Jack and shit. I told my mom "that guy is pure evil." I remembered her telling me "Gotta give Russia a chance." I'm fairly certain she meant a "chance to remove him" now, but at the time I was like "ok, but he's clearly evil."

25 years later I remember that as my second premonition. I'm sure I heard something from someone about how he was behind the apartment bombing false flag and that's what connected it.

The first premonition was when I grabbed a pillow in the car and squeezed it about 20 seconds before my dad hit an ice patch in our car and spun out into a bridge wall. Again, I'm sure I just got frightened by the cold weather and being on the road for about an hour.

Unfortunately, none of it has been terribly useful. Although one time I had a dream where they had rib sandwiches as school, and if I went with the burger I would be disappointed because my friends were all talking about this crazy good sandwich they served at school. So I got the rib sandwich and it was amazing and they were right.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

It is our fucken duty to sabotage anything that tries to free the noose around Moscow's neck. If they want to lift the sanctions we should lift their necks from their shoulders. Fucking kidding me? Remember McCarthyism? This is fucking batshit insane.

[–] TIN@feddit.uk 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember "Red Dawn", back when we thought that Russia would try to take over the US with military might?

What a masterclass in asymmetric warfare that they've managed it with a few well placed memes

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Well placed memes? There has been a massive, concerted effort to disrupt US politicsl perception since the 2000s, and only succeeded because tech billionaires were willing to play ball.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

It's crazy how people keep ignoring the troll issues and it's driving me insane.

We know for a fact that there are ruzies going to office 9-5 to spread online propaganda and we kinda accept it as not a big deal? That's straight up terrorism and no one's talking about it.

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Fuck this shit.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago

That tends to happen when you have successfully installed your puppet as the president of the United States.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Wasn’t that why they installed Краснов in the first place?

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And trump won the dick sucking contest!

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