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[–] netwren@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So wallpapers, clock changes on lock screen, and updated credential manager which I assume is the latest push for Passkeys.

That qualifies a major version change? It kinda sucks that we've stagnated in mobile OS improvements. You just don't really see anything radically different or innovative anymore.

[–] z2k_@lemmy.nz 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feature wise most mobile OS's are pretty mature so it's only natural to see less "improvements" compared to the early days.

Use your favourite Lemmy client for example, the first month of development every release brought a bunch of new features and improvements but these days the releases are all pretty small.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

That's fair. I've switched to thinking of it like a rolling release. This is the latest edition. It's like a maintenance release with the few treats baked in rather than the bare minimum security patches.

[–] ChristianWS 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also cloned apps which is big for me

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

I think that didn't make into Android 14

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

See am I crazy or didn't google say this was a thing coming ages ago?

Also disabling apps. Am I also crazy or did that come and go and only ever work on certain ones? I really do sometimes find it useful to disable apps instead of uninstalling them. When you uninstall you need to configure them all over again when you do the reinstall.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having 2 different instances of the same app. Samsung provides this for most messaging apps.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh nice!!!!

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Because when someone tries to be radical and innovative everyone screams "GIMMICK! JUST GIVE ME AN UPDATE THAT ADDS BASIC FEATURES!"

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What would be considered radical according to you, then?

Not that I disagree with you, though..

[–] On@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • Significant battery life improvements

  • Granular Internet Acess Control (Give users option to prohibit apps from connecting to data or Wi-Fi)

  • Something native like KDE Connect or Your Phone from Microsoft

  • Something like Samsung Dex

  • Unlimited Paypal money generator

There are so many things Google could do.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm on board with the unlimited PayPal money generator.

For the battery life, honestly I could live with phones being 2mm thicker for 24 more hours of battery power. But people (or companies) are obsessed with slim devices.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe I'm confused on the KDE connect part, but you can install KDE connect on windows.

Dex is cool, wanted this too, I'd probably make good use of this type of capability on the steam deck instead though.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Samsung Dex, coming to Android when the Pixel 8 releases.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's actually a really cool feature, and I'm surprised this wasn't done before given how powerful phones have been for some time now.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf -1 points 1 year ago

We? No, there's a tonne of innovation still to be had, but when the goal is profits, it's easier to play it safe and protect those margins.

[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What happened to the webcam-over-USB feature that was promised? Just updated to 14 and went into charge-settings but no webcam option. Tried two USB-cables and both mac and Windows but no go. Was this confirmed to be scrapped? Was my most hyped feature 😭

[–] talab@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's listed on their official update video so it does exist. But it says "on compatible devices and countries" so might only be on the newest phones so far?

https://youtu.be/wEVaHobjbPw

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[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm on Pixel 6a so not ancient... Seems like it will release in another update before year end so here's hoping πŸ™

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's in the next QPR update.

[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thx, then I'll just have to wait a bit longer.

[–] InVeloVeritas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's in the current QPR beta. You need to register for the beta program, which will give you access to the new features they're testing for the December feature drop.

[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thx, I'll just wait it out then. At least it's not scrapped.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I hope it has the ability to remove the Google search bar from the home screen

EDIT: got the update, still can't get rid of the search bar on the default launcher :(

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You could always use a different launcher to do this. I like Nova Launcher, but there are lots of good options.

[–] prograhammingdev@lemmy.prograhamming.com 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nova being bought out by a third party ad company made that a no go for me nowadays :(

[–] zzzz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

KISS launcher FTW. I could never go back to a standard launcher now.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You can still use the APK of the version before the buyout. That's what I'm doing until I find a mature replacement

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Custom launchers are a huge no to me if they don't support Quickswitch... thanks again to Google/Android for breaking the animations....

I hope that A14 fixes this.

[–] PaperTowel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

In loving Kvaesitso. It integrates really well with Nextcloud and Google Drive. And has a ton of other cool features.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

My current goto for an alternate launcher is Ruthless Launcher

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

lawnchair works best for me atm but it's really out of date and hasn't been updated in ages 😭

[–] ink@r.nf 5 points 1 year ago

Search and ads are their bread and butter, Android is there to get you personalized ads. They're not going to give them up as defaults.

They even mess up split screen when you choose a different launcher. that's just a dark pattern to make you use google more

[–] sajran@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't. I would really like that too...

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

yeah I just finished updating and found out 😩

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, the update is going out to 4a 5G but not the 4G version... Is my phone already depreciated?

[–] macallik@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yup. Came out a few months before the 4a 5G:
https://endoflife.date/pixel

[–] macallik@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Didn't expect a lot out of A14 tbh. I think that Operating Systems have matured to become mostly an intermediary between the user and apps as opposed to the conductor. As long as they stay out of the way, most users will be content.

Personally tho, I wouldn't be surprised if 15 is a huge release. Right now, the next frontier seems to obviously be transitioning phones towards AI personal assistants and w/ full integration. Microsoft is already leading the charge from the desktop OS front, but phones imo will be the most familiar integration opportunity.