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[-] simple@lemm.ee 132 points 1 year ago

Literally the only thing I know about this movie is that the main character is gay, Disney really tried to make that a selling point.

[-] StarManta@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

He’s not even the main character, he’s a sidekick and not even the most prominent of the sidekicks really. (Despite the fact that he appears first in many character lists for the movie, the protagonist is Searcher)

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Naturally, because if it was like Nimona, then the character can't be edited out for regressive countries

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[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 1 year ago

Funfact to tell the haters(since I assume few if any are here): The gays are not doing this to Disney. Disney is doing this to the gays, they make 17 first openly this or that kind of queerness because they want the gay peoples money.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

That's the point of the meme, I thought?

Like... we know you're just pandering, Disney.

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[-] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 69 points 1 year ago

Would anyone like to run a statistical analysis of the number of gay characters that have been present in Disney movies, or really movies in general?

They’re forcing gay characters on us! Help I’m being oppressed! Chill the Fuck out and watch literally 99 percent of all movies that have ever been made if you’re worried about being underrepresented.

Let’s sit down and watch all of the movies that feature a white savior ‘knowing what’s best’ for poor and minority characters. Look at their unbridled altruism! They don’t have to associate with those pesky poors but they choose to do it on account of their saintliness! Get the fuck outta here.

[-] Stamets@startrek.website 80 points 1 year ago

According to out.com there are 17 and most of them have the representation of either it being a backhanded reference to them being queer or being on screen for all of 3 seconds. Oh lawd jesus. So oppressive.

Just a bunch of whiny people who are so incredibly insecure with their own sexuality that they think someone else could turn them gay. Probably because they spend more time than they want to admit fantasizing about sucking cock.

Sorry. As a gay dude I am just so phenomenally tired of hearing the most represented group on the planet whine about being "under-represented" or having to be "forced to watch gay people, THINK OF THE KIDS" when shit like Boss Baby is created where you have a literal infant lusting over women.

[-] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just do a deep dive on all the super Fucking uncomfortable 80s and 90s tv shows and movies where it’s totally acceptable for an adult to have a sexual encounter with a child. It’s sold as a gag or the adult ‘ struggles with their urges’ or whatever. Totally normal, haha funny.

Imagine if there were a movie like Leon the professional that featured a gay man or a transgender person. The world would lose its mind and string up the director for child abuse.

I’m in full support of lgbt characters that are ‘normalized’ and treated like everyone else. It’s such a non issue it’s crazy to me that it’s even a concern in anyone’s mind.

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

China has gay people in movies. Where do you people even get these dumb ideas from

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Where do you people even get these dumb ideas from

B-but the goverment of the USA told me that China is evil!

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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

"We, the enlightened and human rights respecting West, did an about face on LGBT people having rights about 10 years ago after many centuries of violent persecution and suppression.

Now you, the country who's main ethnic group derives it's demonym from a dynast of bisexual emperors, and which has never had large scale and systematic persecution or suppression of gay people, must depict gay people in media exactly as we do.

If you do not, we will call you barbarians."

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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

This post is about a movie from a year ago. Was the whole point to do some kind of weird roundabout "China bad" post?

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Went from a valid criticism of rainbow capitalism to straight up sinophobia immediatly.

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[-] axont@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

There are LGBTQ movies from China so this makes no sense. One of my favorites is Lan Yu (藍宇) from 2001. Most of the characters are gay men and the plot is even critical of how the army handled the 1989 Tiananmen Square incident.

Did y'all learn about what China is like from Rocky & Bullwinkle cartoons or what

[-] superkret@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

Since this work contained positive depictions of gay men, explicit (by Chinese standards) gay sex scenes, and resurrected the ghost of Tiananmen Square, at the time, no mainland Chinese publisher would have published it, nor would the author be safe from government reprisals. Hence, its anonymous publication on the Internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan_Yu_(film)

Ah, such a free and progressive society!

[-] axont@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Nothing would ever satisfy you people lmao

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

What a comprehensive rebuttal to his counterpoint lol

You guys really have no idea what to say once you run out of prescripted talking points, huh?

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[-] shoop@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The wiki explains that most of the crew from this movie is from mainland China, however it was made by a Hong Kong director and was filmed without permission from the government.

It explicitly states

at the time, no mainland Chinese publisher would have published it, nor would the author be safe from government reprisals. Hence, its anonymous publication on the Internet.

The film did had a brief showing run in December 2001, at Peking University, where interest by Chinese citizens was quite high, selling out the showings.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Peking University

In Beijing

Sounds like the oppressive Chinese government allowed them to show the movie.

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