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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Current timeline feels like one alternative Red Alert timeline, where alongside of Hitler, Stalin also got erased from history, and now Russia and the US have turned fascistic.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 34 points 13 hours ago

Never have I been more pleased to see a foreign navies nuclear attack sub in my nations waters.

(odd times)

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago

nuclear subs always give me gundam carrier ship vibes

[–] boke@sh.itjust.works 212 points 1 day ago (24 children)

This isn’t a show of force, it’s a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 25 points 18 hours ago

Regardless, it's presence makes a statement that Canada is not alone.

Though I'd be cool if it was stationed at Miquelon for a few months.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 12 points 19 hours ago

They don't need attack subs. They need boomer subs. At this point, Canada needs a nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American who would be in the cross hairs of said nuclear deterrent. Canada should contract with the French for protection under their umbrella until they can build some of their own. The lesson of Ukraine should be that nukes protect small nations from fascist larger ones. Canada could easily end up like Ukraine. It's not like fascists can't find a casus belli. Putin was "restoring Russian glory" or some such. Trump would be "finishing the American Revolution" or some other bullshit.

Please, Canada, from a friend of yours to the south, do not take this threat lightly. No one is going to be able to save you if the US decides to invade. The same oceans that protect you will prevent your rescue. The only hope Canada will ever have of being able to militarily protect its borders from the US is a credible nuclear deterrent.

Just please, don't harden your hearts while you build these weapons of destruction. Don't close your doors to refugees from the US. As someone who is on the regime's enemies list, hopping across the Canadian border and begging for asylum is the last chance I might have if things really go bad.

[–] jimd@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

What's the point of these submarines if there aren't nukes on them?

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

to demonstrate (politely) how quickly and quietly they can appear when we need them to. without endangering anyone or raising alarms that allow trump and co to rattle their sabers

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

There's a dismantled trebuchet on board.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago

To shoot at the ones with nukes on them?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I guess they could use them as a regular strategic missile platform.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 19 hours ago

I mean, they're not mutually exclusive. Nobody was about to start openly threatening the Americans, but having French forces around and mulling over defence deals with France sends a signal.

We don't know what Macron and Trudeau talked about, but accelerating things like this in light of the new reality could well have been part of it.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 day ago

You're right, thanks for adding context. I'm immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn't turning up any articles, only social media links.

Here's a French article about it.

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 95 points 1 day ago (2 children)

JT was just in France as one of his last acts as PM. Mere days later this bad boy shows up in a Halifax harbour. πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” Merci a la belle France πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ€πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

Vive la France!

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[–] ShakingMyCane@lemmy.ca 143 points 1 day ago (4 children)

France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!

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[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 117 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 120 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn't in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.

Here's a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn't seem to find any sources in English.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Hijacking your commet to add this

I don't know much about this stuff, but I have been listening to a ton of podcasts about the war, geopoliticks etc.

From what I learned, France and the UK have nukes, but not the type you can launch from a submarine. (Unfortunately)

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago

Naval Group, a French naval defense company

Ah shit, that's the same company Australia had a deal with to buy diesel subs, before our fuckwit former PM reneged on the deal to create AUKUS and buy American nuclear subs.

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[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.

An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea

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