This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Good. I hope this is what happens.
TLDR: "we should be able to steal other people's work, or we'll go crying to daddy Trump. But DeepSeek shouldn't be able to steal from the stuff we stole, because China and open source"
Fuck these psychos. They should pay the copyright they stole with the billions they already made. Governments should protect people, MDF
Then let it be over then.
This is basically a veiled admission that OpenAI are falling behind in the very arms race they started. Good, fuck Altman. We need less ultra-corpo tech bro bullshit in prevailing technology.
At the end of the day the fact that openai lost their collective shit when a Chinese company used their data and model to make their own more efficient model is all the proof I need they don't care about being fair or equitable when they get mad at people doing the exact thing they did and would aggressively oppose others using their own work to advance their own.
They’re all motivated by greed.
No amigo, it's not fair if you're profiting from it in the long run.
Why training openai with literally millions of copyrighted works is fair use, but me downloading an episode of a series not available in any platform means years of prison?
Technically they get you for 'sharing' as downloading is legal in most places, but I get what you mean.
Have you thought about incorporating yourself into a company? Apparently that solves all legal problems.
I have conflicting feelings about this whole thing. If you are selling the result of training like OpenAI does (and every other company), then I feel like it’s absolutely and clearly not fair use. It’s just theft with extra steps.
On the other hand, what about open source projects and individuals who aren’t selling or competing with the owners of the training material? I feel like that would be fair use.
What keeps me up at night is if training is never fair use, then the natural result is that AI becomes monopolized by big companies with deep pockets who can pay for an infinite amount of random content licensing, and then we are all forever at their mercy for this entire branch of technology.
The practical, socioeconomic, and ethical considerations are really complex, but all I ever see discussed are these hard-line binary stances that would only have awful corporate-empowering consequences, either because they can steal content freely or because they are the only ones that will have the resources to control the technology.
Japan already passed a law that explicitly allows training on copyrighted material. And many other countries just wouldn’t care. So if it becomes a real problem the companies will just move.
I think they need to figure out a middle ground where we can extract value from the for profit AI companies but not actually restrict the competition.
But if you stop me from criming, how will I get better at crime!?!
Sounds fair, shut it down.
These fuckers are the first one to send tons of lawyers whenever you republish or use any IP of them. Fuck these idiots.
Good. Fuck AI
Fuck OpenAI for stealing the hard work of millions of people
Oh no, not the plagiarizing machine! How are rich hacks going to feign talent now? Pay an artist for it?! Crazy!
To be fair copyright is a disease. But then so is billionaires, capitalism, business, etc.
I mean, if there's a war, and you shoot somebody, does that make you bad?
Yes and no.
Good. If I ever published anything, I would absolutely not want it to be pirated by AI so some asshole can plagiarize it later down the line and not even cite their sources.
Good.
What's wrong with the sentiment expressed in the headline? AI training is not and should not be considered fair use. Also, copyright laws are broken in the west, more so in the east.
We need a global reform of copyright. Where copyrights can (and must) be shared among all creators credited on a work. The copyright must be held by actual people, not corporations (or any other collective entity), and the copyright ends after 30 years or when the all rights holders die, whichever happens first. That copyright should start at the date of initial publication. The copyright should be nontransferable but it should be able to be licensed to any other entity only with a majority consent of all rights holders. At the expiration of the copyright the work in question should immediately enter the public domain.
And fair use should be treated similarly to how it is in the west, where it's decided on a case-by-case basis, but context and profit motive matter.
To be fair, they’re not wrong. We need to find a legal comprise that satisfies everyone
It's called paying for the content
This.
I support AI, but I don't understand why AI bros are complicating things or making things all-or-nothing.
OpenAI had enough money to hire a hitman on one of their whistleblowers. They can afford to pay for content, lol.
But how will corporations like Disney survive without copywrites?! Won't someone think about the poor corporations?!
/s
I think the answer is there just do what deepseek did.
Sounds good, fuck em
Do you promise?!?!
Open can suck some dick.
I dont wanna be mean but I always thought this guy had a weird face
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