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Ray tracing is cool but the screenshots in the video just destroy the atmosphere by making everything day bright.
Yeah it's technically better (crisper, higher res, etc) but the visual language is totally different and IMO worse. That fire just doesn't look as hot, for example.
Lighting as an art form is highly coupled with the given tech. Something as small as just changing the shadow method can require artists relighting a whole game. My guess is they aren't doing this or maybe are pushing the stark lighting the same way depth of field, colored lights, lens flares etc got juiced in previous generations.
That's always wrong. The tech should service the art, not the other way around.
Agreed. In the video a lot of the “RTX Off” scenes look better IMO.
I feel this way about a lot of RTX implementations.
So this might be a stupid question considering how tied to Nvidia it seems to be, but... will run on the new AMD 90-series cards that can actually do ray-tracing?
Sure it will. It will probably run like a 2080 TI or 3070 though. The ray tracing performance of AMD isn't stellar. At least they got their shit together and got a AI rescaler that competes with DLSS.
Probably not, no
Edit: Actually maybe. Read my comment below
So I've been reading up on it a little bit and it seems like raytracing is part of Vulkan and DirectX 12, so the APIs shouldn't be proprietary the way CUDA and PhysX are...right?
In theory, yea it should. But this is developed by Nvidia with their own graphics cards in mind. If this is similar to Portal RTX, then RDNA3 cards will be able to run it, just with severly crippled performance.
Yea but isn't AMDs ray tracing performance severely crippled in general? I thought if you want to use ray tracing your far better of buying from team green.
I was under the impression that RDNA3 was still pretty bad at raytracing in general. What I'm really wondering though, having just bought a 9070 XT, is what about RDNA4?
Out of curiosity, what are you upgrading from? I've a 3070 and I'm wondering if now's the time to jump back to team red.
A Vega 56. If you think your 3070 might be obsolete we have vastly different perspectives, LOL!
I don't think it's obsolete by any means - it is driving an ultrawide monitor and the RAM upgrade might be nice longer term, this gen is slightly more reasonably priced for AMD, Nvidia driver upgrades are painful on linux, so I wanted to know if there's a significant uplift/how well does it handle RT in comparison to justify a switch for me.
Well, all I know is that it's a significant uplift over a Vega. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be faster than a 3070, but I'm not sure if it's enough faster to be worth it. I guess if it's on the bubble, AMD playing nicer with Linux might push it over the edge. You should read/watch reviews or something; you'll be able to get much better advice from e.g. Gamer's Nexus than from me.
One thing I will say is that, in my experience, standing in line at Microcenter on launch day is the only way to have a decent chance at getting a video card at MSRP these days. Since you missed that for the 9070 XT, maybe wait until whatever AMD makes next (9070 XTX? 9060? 9080??) comes out and try to get one of those on launch day.
You should definitely not be desperate enough to pay higher-than-MSRP prices just to get more RAM and easier to deal with drivers.
You make a good point, I'll watch reviews and that sometimes it's nice to get an.average user opinion too! I'm probably at least 6 months away from buying anything unless I see a complete bargain. Not being sure I should get it should probably be an indicator I'm okay for now! Thanks.
So who's actually developing it? If it was Valve they would have said...
I already own HL2, but presumably I would have to buy this anew.
It's a community project with support from Valve and Nvidia
This looks great, I wonder if it's possible for all this DLSS and similar tech to get rid of severe input lag. No matter how good it looks, I wouldn't play a shooter with input lag.
Well as long as you don't turn on frame gen, the input lag shouldn't be much higher than normal. There's also NVidia reflex, which can shave a few milliseconds off input lag
There shouldn't be any additional input lag. DLSS and frame gen have some but to most people it's not noticeable since it's like 10ms.
Frame gen introduce input lag due to interpolation, DLSS shouldn't produce any input lag as far as I'm aware.
if only this could release on consoles
Waaahhh but I hate Ray TraCing.