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Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump's promise to crack down on "criminal illegal immigrants," but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 316 points 4 days ago (6 children)

You shouldn't have to have it happen to you before you realize the impact it has on others, but that's what we're up against.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 142 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Empathy takes a little thought and many people just can't think.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I once saw it described on Lemmy that Conservatives have sympathy but no empathy.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I saw a Ted talk that talked about inability to entertain the hypothetical. Some people are simply unable to entertain the hypothetical "what if my wife is deported', they can only recognize it when it becomes "my wife is being deported ".

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[–] sowitzer@lemm.ee 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

From the article I don’t get a sense he is at all questioning his vote. He feels his case is special and the government messed up. For him. She’s vetted, so it’s ok. The others deserve what they are getting.

[–] Astra@lemmy.ml 58 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Brackets by me:

[Him and his wife] have been thinking a lot about [his] vote for Trump.

"I knew they were cracking down," he said. "I guess I didn’t know how it was going down."

He imagined the administration would target people who snuck over the border and weren't vetted

But his wife, "they know who she is and where she came from," he said. "They need to get the vetting done and not keep these people locked up. It doesn’t make any sense."

The dumbfuck doesn't show any contrition at all, he just says oops I didn't know. When this topic came up in the interview, he didn't admit any regret or that he put himself (and his wife) in this position - he just says that the government is wrong to do this to him/his wife, and that they should go after other illegals instead. What a piece of shit.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago

Aren't these people guys with guns who fantasize about fighting tyranny? Well this is your fucking chance to shine, sweetheart!

[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency.

I have to assume this guy was aware of this. So if you vote to have "illegals" deported, how is this not exactly what you voted for?

They really don't like having to think about things do they?

I wonder if he told at all her he votes for people that want her gone.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The overwhelming majority of 'illegal' residents are visa overstays.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Damn, it's almost enough to make you think every single Trump supporter is an ignorant idiot absolutely devoid of any concept of forethought.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

It's almost as if being a racist douchebag is bad for everyone........

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 133 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (21 children)

Hold the fuck up, she was already OVERSTAYING her Visa and these idiots thought it was a good idea to TRAVEL? Nah they both got what they fucking deserved. It doesn't matter that you're awaiting your residency application, you have already passed your exit date, why the fuck would you be traveling for your honeymoon

Edit: I'm literally standing in the airport awaiting my fiance's return from Mexico right now, this shit makes all the people who actually read their paperwork and follow the rules, look bad when they get lumped in with these idiots.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apparently she got stuck in the States when all the borders were closed during the pandemic, which seems pretty reasonable grounds for overstaying.

But - she didn't leave when the borders re-opened. She had fallen in love and at some point she filed paperwork to normalize her status - though they're pretty coy about when they filled the papers, so I suspect that was done after the borders re-opened and she should have left.

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I'm also going to point out what I haven't seen in any of the comments so far which is that, with ICE being pressured to increase the number of deportations, they're opting to go for low-hanging fruit. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean raiding places that they've known for decades are hiring illegal immigrants, arresting and prosecuting and imprisoning the owners and managers.

It does mean that they're hanging out at at least some airports, and it sounds like they're running passenger lists ahead of time (because they knew exactly who to approach). I mean, why to go the trouble of driving out to some farm or factory in the middle of nowhere, trying to chase down people who know the area better than you ever will, when you can sit at a comfy air-conditioned desk and only bother to get up when the computer lets you know that your "target" is trying to check in for their flight?

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 144 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I pity Madam but I have little sympathy for Sir.

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[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 106 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"but... it shouldn't have affected ME, you know?"

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Right because my situation is special. I’m special and these laws don’t apply to me. @shithead I’ve voted for you 3 times, please help rectify this mistake.

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[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 80 points 4 days ago
[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 134 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I honestly believe these idiots that voted for Trump somehow thought that they would be immune to his policies. He doesn't give a fuck about you.

[–] marzhall@lemmy.world 101 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

For sure. It's the classic:

Tweet that says, "I never thought the leopards would eat my face" says woman who voted for the leopards eating people's faces party

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[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago

I know it’s been getting a lot of mileage on Lemmy lately, but:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

  • Wilholt’s Law

He figured he was in the first group, and since conservatives tend to think women are property, he figured her being with him put her in that group too. Whoops.

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[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This reads like the post Brexit articles. What do people expect to happen when they vote for something?

[–] ScoreDivision@programming.dev 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I didn't think leopards would eat my face

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[–] stevegiblets@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I will never not be amazed at the hatred and stupidity at the heart of MAGA

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[–] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago

Good. I hope he's fucking devastated. I hope his entire world is fucking crumbling. Everyone with three working braincells or more knew exactly what would happen if we let the christonationalist fascists have total control of the government, and pieces of subhuman trash like him willingly made it happen.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I hate that as americans were so stupid we have to learn like this because we can't hear people out before it gets to this point.

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Like I believe one of your founding fathers Benjamin Franklin said: "Experience holds a dear school, but fools learn from no other"

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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Maybe a controversial opinion but I don’t think anyone belongs in an ICE detention centre regardless of who their spouse voted for. I don’t think this is funny.

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Haven't you heard? Empathy is a sin and the weakness of Western civilization. It's what a true conservative would want.

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[–] Retropunk64@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago

Those damn leopards at it again.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I hate how many people are this fucking stupid.

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[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, can’t say trump isn’t keeping my the promises he made when on campaign

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Imagine being an immigrate and marrying a Trump supporter. Should we feel sorry for her? Because I feel no sympathy for him.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Imagine being an immigrate and marrying a Trump supporter.

Imagine being an immigrant and marrying a Trump. FIFY

Not even blue steel could help you then.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 29 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Good. It sucks for her, but Trump voters don't deserve to have happy lives.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I wonder if she knew he was actively supporting the politics of people that hate her.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 88 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa ... Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, ...

"Supportive of stricter immigration policies," doesn't turn in his wife for violating existing immigration policies.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 47 points 4 days ago

"I got mine", he thought.

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[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago
[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 35 points 4 days ago

"They're hurting the wrong people!!"

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 30 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I'd feel sorry for the guy but that would be both insincere and incorrect. After all, he got exactly what he voted for.

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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 48 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

These clowns always pull up the ladder after they "get theirs." Marry an immigrant and think you're safe? Vote to get rid of the ones you don't like via a Dictator. Dictators turn on their supporters sooner or later, for them it was sooner. Wait until he comes for the guns. He's the only president that has said guns should be taken away.

E: Getting lots of gateway timeouts for .world, anyone else? I'm in the US.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

There are easier ways to get divorced... just saying

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The one bit that’s not being mentioned: they detained her from a flight from Puerto Rico, which is a US protectorate. Does that mean flights from other US states are now being examined by border and customs?

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 days ago

The money the couple saved for a down payment on a home has evaporated into attorneys fees and savings to pay a bond for her release, if she's given that chance.

There's a silver lining to this. Think about all the high quality white collar jobs (lawyers) that this is supporting. Way to stimulate the economy, Trumpers! /s

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago

Me when I read stories like this

FAFO vote for a clown don't complain it's turning into a crazy circus

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Feel sorry for her. Maybe she'll find a better partner.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 42 points 4 days ago (10 children)

The more I see stories like this, the more I wonder if Americans can make it out of this hole they've dug. The average inhabitant seems... rather lacking, compared to other developed countries.

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