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[–] QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget "14 years old".

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

That's the little line between.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God, just today someone was telling me that definitions were "facts", and that staying "LGBTQ" was "changing the meaning of the alphabet" somehow.

They were celebrating a bunch of women not being able to attend a job fair, but then started telling me that they were "protecting women"

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a troll... I hope...

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Seems like debate and people changing their minds when presented with new information is something that died around 9/11, if it ever even existed. Even the most mild vocal disagreement just further entrenches people in their feelings.
There's just no point.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an old person, can confirm it never existed. People have always been like this.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As a junior middle aged (40yo) person, I can confirm with the caveat that the number of things that are considered common sense rather than completely subjective matters of opinion has changed a shitload since the turn of the millennium, with 9/11 being one of the major catalysts.

When I was growing up in the 80s and 90s, outlandish conspiracy theories were rightly considered fringe lunacy and being a nazi or any other kind of fascist was a shameful thing that you had to hide to be accepted, not a resurgent movement across most North America and Europe.

Just to name two of the worst examples of thousands of ways that discourse has worsened since the "good old days" when other things were much worse.

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

As a young person (18yo), I feel like this is mostly true for the internet but not so much in real life. Most people I know don't believe stupid shit like this, even though there are of course some people that do, at least when it comes to conspiracy theories. Being a nazi, especially here in germany, will make most people, by far, dislike you and there's a good chance you'll just get a punch in the face if you tell that to someone. But at the same time, the internet has made people able to communicate with others that share the same stupid opinions so maybe it did increase because they don't feel like they're alone in that believe anymore. I can't really compare it to how it was before the internet tho because I grew up with the internet already being a thing.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

I think the only thing that really changed is the internet removed the gatekeeping role of centralized information sources. When you were a kid, was CNN still the end-all-be-all oracle and arbiter of concrete truth? In my mom's generation, it was Walter Cronkite, of course. And if you were one of those people who got your information from Coast to Coast AM or other AM radio shows, you were considered a weirdo because if any of that stuff was really true, then Ted Koppel would have reported on it.

But also, looking back now, how fucking bizarre was it that they televised the invasion of Iraq twice? That's some serious colonial behavior and I had no idea at the time. Now I can see it for what it was.

But also, I really wish we had had one centralized authority to give us information and advice about how to handle Covid. So I think there's good and bad things about the change.

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

It happens, it just never comes to a satisfying synthesis. I changed my opinion a few times after one of those big 25 reply arguments, though I never admitted to it in the moment.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It's always been a thing to not really want to admit you're wrong. Half of debate is just realizing you're not ever going to change your opponent's mind real-time. Ego gets in the way way too hard, particularly on a public platform. Debating on a public platform is more to try to convince people in the audience that are more moderate.

Sometimes, your good argument can also actually change the other person's mind, even slightly, but you'll probably never SEE it. That doesn't mean it's pointless, just that if you're expecting to get something out of the act of debating, it has to be something other than changing your oppo mind.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone who does not understand what I am saying = Idiot.

Anyone who disagrees with what I am saying = Troll

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's more than just disagreement. It's disagreement in defiance of logic and reason. Bad faith actors.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Anyone who does not understand or agree with what I'm saying = idiot

Anyone who understands or agrees with my opinion but pretends not to in order to get a rise = troll

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least it's not "faggot" or "retard" anymore.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both idiot and retard were once medical terms that turned into slurs.

[–] JiggityWeenis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Sometimes you can hit the stage where either person admits they're wrong.

It only requires an analytic philosophy PHD- Level essay.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a dick and i am happy about it

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Good for you ig

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Any political idea that differs from someone else's seems to get you these labels. They really don't like it when you straight up tell them you are not going to continue the dialogue and call you one of these two things to get the last word.