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[-] drmoodmood@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Finally! Now to also force phonemakers to universally provide bootloader unlocks so we can put our own ROMs on our devices once the software support ends.

[-] Wander@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago

Hooray! Younger generations will finally be able to experience the joy of dropping their phone and having to pick up three to four different pieces! /s

(I'm all for this change, by the way)

[-] _MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh I remember that with Nokias. It's like shock absorbing for cars lol.

[-] Graphine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly, with Apple making it incredibly fucking hard to take out their batteries with excessive amounts of glue, I'm okay with this.

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[-] quortez@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Fingers crossed that this will be implemented well, im tired of having sleek electronics be irrelevant in 2 years when the silicon could go for 5 or six

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The silicon could go on for decades if both the modem and processor were fully documented hardware that the community can access and support in the Linux kernel.

I can run a secure and current form of Linux on 30+ year old hardware if I want to, because the hardware documentation was expected by everyone at the time even if some end users were oblivious to what this meant. The whole reason google pushes Android is because they provide a base Linux kernel that hardware manufacturers can easily slip their proprietary junk into without requiring them to add the kind of open source code needed for mainline kernel support by the community. This is the mechanism that depreciates your device. It is totally artificial and an end user exploitation by design.

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[-] got2best@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Do y'all remember the days when you dropped your phone and it exploded into 3 or 4 pieces? 🤣 Those were the good days.

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[-] hyorvenn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fairphone 3 user here. My main reason to choose this phone a few years ago was because the battery could easily be replaced. Too many phones are perfectly functional but the battery is half dead. Another boon of non-glued batteries : You can carry two (or more) batteries to easily switch when the first one is KO. Meaning no need for portable charger and useless cables in your pocket. Phone at 10% ? Just change it, bam 100% in a second. Easy as that.

I'll probably not be the target of such regulations because I wouldn't choose an anti-consumer phone brand anyway, but at least it's going in the right direction.

[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

LET'S GOOOOO

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Phones are getting more expensive so people are holding on to them longer, so it's a nice quality of life improvement to remove the barriers to battery replacement so less people have to go down to a phone repair store to get it changed. The more of a hassle battery replacement is seen the more likely people are to just upgrade and create e-waste.

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[-] xtract@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It might lead to thicker phones, but battery and/or SW obsolescence are the main reasons I have been swapping phone in the last 10 years.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Back in the day when I had a Samsung S4, I bought this massive brick of a battery/new back plate and I LOVED it. Absolutely worth being a bit thick.

[-] rkk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

i got a broken galaxy a70. the phone is thin. all of the photos online are screen glas cracks appear where battery ends. plastic frame. bends. f'@~... ridicolous. at least full body battery protects you from cheap design choices. XD

[-] guy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Excellent! Batteries in modern phones are surprisingly definitely removable and replaceable. I've done it multiple times. However, the unfriendly barrier to entry is glue and clips that require careful prying with spugers. It's quite clear manufacturers are happy blocking you getting in; plenty people just buy new phones when the battery gets too old.

[-] thesanewriter@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

If this goes through, I think it would be really good news. Battery failure is one of the leading things that force people to replace their smartphones, and having them be replaceable would go a long way towards making smartphones last longer.

[-] boo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I do miss being able to swap out a phone battery and this will certainly be a step in the right direction in terms ewaste and device longevity.

One thing that I wonder about is waterproofing or water resistance. Some phones are basically waterproof in shallow water. How achievable is this with a device with a trivial way to remove the battery?

[-] HubbleST@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Galaxy S5 sport had a battery door and water resistance. They just used gaskets.

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[-] arseneau@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is awesome. Thank god for EU legislation that directly benefits me as an American consumer. Now I can microwave lithium ion batteries in peace!

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[-] UsernameLost@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Good! I loved having removable batteries, especially while traveling. Just carry a charged battery and hotswap them instead of having to find a plug to camp by for 30-60 minutes

[-] IEatChickens@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Finally! The extra few millimetres of thickness don't matter, now it is easier to keep a phone for longer.

[-] BanggerRang@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

About bloody time! Devices these days are so far technically advanced, no need to upgrade every 2 years. I can hold onto a phone for easily 3-5 years. Especially with hot swap batteries!

[-] M_Reimer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And now they just have to force manufacturers to either at least security patch devices for, let's say 10 years, or force them to open source everything the community needs to continue supporting this device. It never happened to me that the battery died before support ended.

Just had that issue with my Pixel 3a XL. No more security updates. Had to replace it with a Pixel 6a but I liked the 3a XL more. It there was any community support for the 3a XL, I would rather sell my 6a again.

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As an Apple user, I definitely have batteries die before the product stops being useful. The company provides feature updates for old phones for several years, and when that runs out they continue to provide security patches for several more years.

A new iPhone battery is only $47 (if you do the repair yourself, and if you send your old battery back to Apple for a recycling credit), but it's a pretty complex and arduous process with a fair chance of damaging your phone while attempting it. You also have to pay a deposit, over a thousand dollars, to rent the tools off Apple. Ouch.

You can take it to an Apple store, but that takes even longer than doing the repair yourself. And it costs more (though you don't have to pay the outrageous deposit for the tools).

This legislation would force Apple to make it a simple process with no tools. Yes please.

[-] konalt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I actually love all these regulations on smartphones (mainly by the EU), like the recent USB-C standard. That one in particular makes it so much easier to share chargers around the house!

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can’t wait to hear the Apple marketing word for this feature. They’ll add some gimmick like the battery is held in with magnets and say “We call it MagPack and we think you’re going to love it.”

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