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[–] Meep@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

First they funded, supported, and grew the terrorism, and THEN, they fought the terrorism. Then they funded other terrorists. But it's always in countries with natural resources they want.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

Gonna be honest, the idiom/meme "had one job" is almost never correct or appropriate and the role of president is certainly a situation where it does not apply. I find it irksome, most of the time, when people say/type it, without actually thinking things through and applying it appropriately. Don't care if it is an unpopular opinion because it is a fact that it is used incorrectly the vast majority of the time and haters gonna hate, only true appreciators gonna appreciate.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

When you wage a war on an enemy, you win when the enemy is dead. When you wage a war on an idea, there's no final end point.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 70 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

War on drugs - drugs won

War on terror - terror won

War on woke - 🤞

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's never been about defeating those things, it's about expanding power using them as an excuse.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly.

  1. War on Drugs - reduce minority voice in government
  2. War on Terror - PATRIOT Act, or whatever its current incarnation is
  3. War on Woke - probably government access to medical records and/or privacy generally, but I guess we'll see
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

War on Drugs - reduce minority voice in government

And increase incarceration of certain people to expand legal slavery under the 13th amendment.

expand legal slavery

Maybe in some states, but in many (most?), they just become a burden on taxpayers.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

War on poverty 😬

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

War on drugs - excuse to further oppress blacks and mexicans (successful)

War on terror - excuse to violently expand influence in the middle east (mission accomplished)

War on woke - 😟

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)
  • War on Woke - war on privacy and access to undesirable (to the state) information

As RATM says:

Who controls the past now, controls the future.

Who controls the present now, controls the past.

It's just Big Brother.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

that makes sense. to start utilizing their surveillance network more aggressively to their interests. trying to censor out "woke", as in socialism and anticapitalism in general, activism etc...

yeah this doesn't look good does it.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

I mean they literally came out and said that they hate empathy.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

They are this clean cut folksy little musical group that had to start getting all political one day just to ruin Paul Ryan's workout.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 hours ago

Rage Against the Machine

[–] AllHailZorglub@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago

Considering how tired and sleepy I feel, they may be winning this one.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

interesting

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His one job was to create profit for weapons manufacturers and he did that job very very well

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

His job was to do Israel’s bidding and remove Saddam.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Saddam and his family were genuinely awful, to be fair.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, but that’s not really why they removed him.

Plenty of horrible people ruling countries that America has no interest in removing as it doesn’t suit their needs.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

You're right, they don't go in and remove every dictator, and this one was because they had an ulterior motive.

Nonetheless, they did a good thing.

Yeah, like Russia...

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I always say, I celebrate Saddam getting fucked hard while still realizing the whole thing was fucked up. Especially since it was lead by a moron / lunatic

That's a nice side effect.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago

Just like the "war on drugs" was never about stopping drugs, this was never about stopping terrorism.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Declaring war on a concept has never gone well for the states, has it? Drugs, terror, women, the list goes on.

Seems like it has worked pretty well:

  1. Vietnam/Korea/etc - most people hate communism
  2. War on Drugs - police get to arrest minorities, and felons don't get to vote (suppress minority vote)
  3. War on Terror - PATRIOT Act is still alive and well, it just has different names now

With the right perspective, they seem pretty successful to me, you just need to peek behind the curtain.

[–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 8 points 20 hours ago

The US isn't known for winning wars historically.

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago

I'm holding out hope that we can still turn it around and defeat Santa Claus

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

The war against woman is sadly going strong right now. More than drugs and etc ever has.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Declaring war on a concept has never gone well ~~for the states~~, has it?

Ftfy.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Matter of perspective. Ask halliburton how's it going...

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Declaring war on anything. They need the Europeans to invite them to the final hours of one to chalk a W.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 day ago

What is anon complaining about he did his job. He declared the war. Then he kicked the can down the road for someone else to get the job of winning it.

[–] tkmtlmike@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

No, man! He said war OF Terror...

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Stepskippin@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

New skill unlocked: "Lie with energy and in a few years fact checking becomes diabolical."

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Are we really going back this far, right at this moment?

[–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 6 points 20 hours ago

Mate, I was traumatised when Dragonball z and Pokémon were interrupted before school and this dude was on all the TV stations.

Nothing has been any good sense.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's not that far back at all. Most events we know about, everyone who remembers it are dead. This idiot lives in many people's memories today, and we're still dealing with some of the consequences.

And his brother was even the establishment favorite to win until Trump took over everything.