ACA was a great idea that they purposefully let the Republicans destroy. Democrats don't want progress, they just want the status quo and to be able to shrug and say, "We tried."
Cowards.
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I think its fairer to say about 25% of Democratic politicians are garbage (vs 100% of republicans) but it effectively means they will never pass any kind of uncorrupted reform unless they are absolutely terrified.
No archived link. I was on vacation, so I couldn't do it at the time. I'm just going to lock it since it seems to have gone off already.
Sidenote: Are there any clients that make it easy to mod on mobile?
Bro literally had the votes for single payer and didn't take it.
Bro literally demonstrably didn't because caucusing independent Joe Lieberman voted against Public Option leaving the DNC dead in the water with 59 and a Republican Filibuster. The DNC count was 58 + 2 ind, and only for 72 days.
Here's an article from 2009 that analyzes this point about the White House during the 111th Congress bit: https://www.politico.com/story/2009/12/what-if-obama-hadnt-ostracized-dean-030752
Obama White House worked against itself on healthcare reform during that time period. Actively. Lieberman was essentially helping the White House's mission.
Some of us who were fighting that fight back then haven't forgotten or willfully pulled the wool over our eyes when the turn happened. Some of us were still pissed about abortion disappearing from legistlative priorities immediately after the election.
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This ridiculous trend of people linking one or multiple opinion articles is as fucking annoying as Tankies leaving a giant wall of text pulling from various manifestos, you've basically done the same thing with an added middleman. A bunch of what-ifs and hypotheticals doesn't change the facts. Getting 58 DNC senators wasn't enough but it was still a huge accomplishment, and this "all or nothing" approach to reform is just childish. Just because Obama didn't give Dean a bunch of positions doesn't indicate any acts of malice, and his actual choice for HHS, Kathleen Sebelius was also a supporter for Public Option.
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Overturning SCOTUS decisions isn't as simple as electing a simple senate majority, you're either wildly misinformed or you're arguing in bad faith.
Overturning SCOTUS decisions isn't as simple as electing a simple senate majority, you're either wildly misinformed or you're arguing in bad faith.
Are you referring to Dobbs? ...In response to the Obama White House backing off codifying Roe v Wade in his first term?
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There were a LOT of shitty liberal status-quo standards that Obama stamped down, solidified and made mandate for 8 years while paving the way for conservatism to run amuck across the country by not using his unprecedented power to actually implement and federally protect progressive politics and install judges. ACA was so watered-down from the public option we all wanted, that it was literally a plan invented by Republicans, Mitt Romney specifically.
I thought Obama was a great person, he was a great leader, he was inspiring and helped create prosperity and peace for many years. But I'm not a personality cultist, I have some serious criticisms of his presidency and how he managed the Democratic party (or failed to).
He had every opportunity to push America into a new era of social policies and protections for all people, and what actually happened is a lot of banks made a lot of money.
He thought he could compromise Republicans into behaving, he didn't realize until it was too late that they'd never support a black man. And since the GOP knows that a black president is a possibility, they'll never allow a Democrat to bring their voice above a whisper again
Bingo
I'm not from the us, what does it mean?
“Single payer” refers to the government being the one paying for healthcare and prescriptions, and thus having tons of leverage to negotiate lower costs while also providing healthcare to everybody.
Basically, it was one possible method to bring healthcare in the US up to the level of the rest of the developed world.
Single Payer is basically the system most countries have where healthcare is not a luxury good, but a human right.
Thanks Obomber
thats some obama awards obama stuff right there.
The ACA blows. Here are my issues with it:
- doesn't go far enough - I would've been better off w/ ACA if my employer didn't offer coverage (small company of <50 people), but switching would've eliminated my employer contribution and the credit
- goes too far - too opinionated about what care counts
The proper solution IMO would've been to:
- separate health insurance from employment - employers can offer cash incentives, but you should be able to choose if you want their group coverage or to apply the cash to your own plan
- simplify healthcare coverage terms - most people don't understand their health coverage, though ACA plans are a bit easier to understand; they should have required all health insurance plans to simplify their coverage
- expand Medicare/Medicaid instead of creating a new healthcare marketplace
But no, they didn't do any of that. Screw everyone involved. Republicans for neutering the bill, and Democrats for only fighting for the stuff that doesn't matter as much.
He's still got my vote
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