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HP typically makes garbage nowadays, so I dunno how many people are clamoring for them to make a handheld.
this post was submitted on 24 Mar 2025
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Because competition just makes the Steam Deck better and cheaper
If the competition make some good portables, Valve will probably leave the hardware to them and focus only on the software.
I'm not going to buy one but I'm always interested to see what they can make
I'd never buy anything HP again. They earned 1st place on my do-nerver-ever-even-consider list with bravado some 25 years ago already.
Look, same, but just for the fun of it I like to imagine there is some magic point here where HP decides to make a steam deck os handheld, but doesn't give a shit enough to focus on loading it up with shovelware, they just sort of say ok lets make a handheld that can run steamos and just focus on the hardware, leave em to the wolves I mean steam support.
They can make decent hardware, at least on their business laptops, it can be wildly inconsistent, kind of reminds me of like an audi car (at least in the US) some of them are actually pretty decent and reliable but some of them are fucking horror stories that never end for the owner lol...
I work with HP (Poly) on a daily basis and I will never own one of their products. They're a pain to work with and their products are outclassed by less expensive options.
Fuck HP. Trash company.
I too have the bad fortune to remove HP crapware from computers. When they ask me for a reason why I don't want their McAfee or Wolf security or to send all my data through their servers, I take the time to write something like "I hate your shitty company and your products"
I'm on the AV side of things and am currently dealing with their cameras not working with the 3rd party extenders that HP recommended. And why do they need these extenders at all? Because they're USB in 2025 and Poly refuses to make their own.
We have 20 different installs going on with the exact same setup and HP is just like "huh that's weird!"
Bonus rant: before HP bought them, Poly had normal SKUs. Like you knew what the product was based on the SKU. You knew if it was hardware or a service line. Now, the Poly E70 (shit camera btw) for example has the SKU "67J25AA#ABA." The E60 is "9W1A6AA#AC3.
I asked our rep directly what the fuck was going on with this garbage and he told me HP stuck all the products on a spreadsheet and basically assigned the SKUs randomly. There is no rhyme or reason.
But it would still be an HP so... gross.
Prove your worth my time by making me a good printer hp.
Are their printers bad? I haven't even tried any in decades because their business practices are so awful, but I always thought that at the very least the printers themselves should be good.
Sadly, Brother's printers might be going on the same direction now.
They're fine so long as you keep them offline and don't ever update the firmware. I've had my current HP for 7 years, it's been solid so far.
HP has gotten in trouble multiple times now for firmware updates that intentionally brick their own printers, usually in an effort to stop people from using 3rd-party ink. Their system for verifying authentic ink is unreliable though so everytime they do it they also brick a bunch of printers that are overpaying for HP ink.
Generally HP is the poster child for the worst inkjet printer company.
My understanding is the Brother fiasco turned out to be baseless. At the very least, nobody else has stepped forward to corroborate the issues that were claimed.
HP
Good printer
That's an oxymoron
I know HP printers are generally considered the worst printers you can get, but I don't really know how good their other product lines are.
It's different departments, so possibly they could make a decent handheld? Mainly it's just good to hear hardware companies are aware of how bad windows is for gaming devices.
I had an omen laptop with a 2060 and it was alright. I wanted better performance on a 1440p monitor so I sold it for a desktop build.
When I was younger I had an HP and a Campaq laptop. Both were garbage.
HP is all over the place, they do make trash, but their business laptops are usually pretty good.
I have never had an HP devices with a screen where the screen did not die.
Technically if you store the ram into the hard drive and resume, such as the Hibernation Mode included in most Windows versions (idk anything about 11) then it would resume exactly where you left off.
But its moot because there is no future for Windows.
In theory, yes. In practice, dealing with games is not so straightforward. Even the steam deck's "suspend" is still far behind the Nintendo switch's. In some games (older stuff, usually) the games don't get paused at all, or it pauses the image but keeps the sound playing, or even sometimes appears to work properly, but then drains your battery just as fast as it you were playing - suggesting it is still processing the whole game in the dark.
In the example I gave the machine would be powered down completely. Hibernate is different from Sleep.
A lot of games do weird things on windows after sleep or crash outright, I'm assuming hibernation would also mess things up.
There are enough different versions that this might not be universal, but it would have to do so on battery power because hibernate turns off the power supply. Sleep certainly isn't the same as Hibernate, but some versions of windows replace the option for hibernate with the option for sleep, but they do not function the same.
Yeah, I'm just guessing that sleep is less disruptive than hibernate, because the ram never even has to be unloaded and reloaded.
Edit: seems like I'm wrong, doing some searches shows that people with the ROG Ally are disabling sleep and forcing the Ally to hibernate mid game. Doesn't work for all games, but does for more games than sleep. People also report that the Ally was frequently waking up on it's own from sleep and overheating in their bags, and that wifi would stop working after sleep, so definitely sounds like hibernate is the way to go on windows devices.
HP can make some neat stuff but I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.
Probably have better luck convincing Agilent to make some cool shit
The Dev One laptop wasn’t half bad as a collab between HP and System76. Full AMD hardware stack, easy RAM and storage upgrades, Pop!_OS from the factory.
Came with WiFi 5 (easy enough to upgrade to 6) and no TPM/Secure Boot capabilities, has the typical HP flimsy display hinges, and the 1920x1080 glossy display has the worst viewing angles in history, but I guess that makes it quarter-bad rather than half.
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