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[–] 47_Alpha_Tango@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why would anyone voluntarily use it anyway?

[–] lightsecond@programming.dev 88 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It’s been out for less than ten days and it already has more than 35x the number of total users as Mastodon. It might not be for us, but saying that no one would want to use it is just sour grapes.

[–] 47_Alpha_Tango@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s the volume of person data it scoops up. I don’t understand why anyone would happily share that much information just to use a social media app.

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] everythingsucks@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people just don’t care.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Unless you're willing to put in a decent amount of work, your giving someone your data. So people have gotten very 'whatever who cares' about it. Full time working people with kids aren't taking time to research. And people want to interact. If everyone is doing it, they're not going to miss out.

We have long answered the question "if your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it too?" There is a large percent who absolutely would.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. The average person doesn't know. I bet your parents don't check the privacy policy when they download an app.
  2. The average person might not care. We live in an era where lots of people would literally put listening devices in their houses.
  3. If you're already on Twitter, a decent amount of your data was already being shared anyways.
  4. Most people go to different social media platforms because (paradoxically) people are on those platforms.
  5. A decent amount of people might just dislike Musk because he calls people pedophiles for... helping kids or cucks for... making competing software??? So they'd rather give money to the next billionaire available.

This link has a decent comparison of a lot of social media sites' privacy policies.

[–] 47_Alpha_Tango@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

For point one my parents don’t even bother to read error messages. They just close them then phone me and complain the computer is broken.

I also don’t use Twitter and haven’t for many years now. Even longer for Facebook.

[–] spacedancer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

While we on here makes it look like there are a ton of people who value their privacy on the internet, the general population by large isn't really aware how bad it is or have the know how to do something about it. The rest who do know don't really care that much.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've pretty quickly concluded that sour grapes are in no short supply here.

That so many people genuinely cannot fathom the concept that many people actually like social media - and may even be aware of the privacy cost and find it acceptable - really speaks more about how out-of-touch a lot of people here are than anything else.

[–] lurkandtwerk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It seems like a more extreme version of the weird elitism around social media that was always present on Reddit.

[–] Silviecat44@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I have also come to this conclusion. You are very accurate in your statement about how many are out of touch here

[–] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The numbers are highly skewed because of the launch. A number of users are being paid to create content during the launch. A lot of the users are just checking out the hype. Some will stay, many won't.

The numbers won't really be useful or comparable until the dust settles. I give it a month.

[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

35x maybe because every Instagram account also got a Threads account?

[–] lightsecond@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Not quite. This is 15% of Instagram.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not hard when you create shadow profiles.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shadow profiles for a social media that require use through a mobile app that requires a bunch of permissions? I guess Windows and the Android app installation might be way around it. But, feel like even using just a random account on a phone exposes so much. Even tiktok you can sign up and use through just a browser or lurk without an account.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you use it on the same devices, wifi networks, locations, etc as your regular Facebook/Insta then you’re not fooling anyone. Meta still knows it’s you, and will happily link the data from the shadow account back to your regular accounts. They can track you across the web even when you don’t have an account at all, because all of those “share to Facebook/Insta” buttons tell them that you visited the page and loaded the button. You don’t need to be signed in for those buttons to load. And you think a shadow account is going to protect you?

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Because everyone else is there, that's how it works. People don't give a rat's ass about privacy, they just want to be where their friends are.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

The same type of people who uses tik tok

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You underestimate how many people don't give a fuck about their privacy.

[–] jesterraiin@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why shouldn't it? They are interested in personal data, not some fabricated online personalities.

Let it be the perfect counterargument to every moron who says "I'm not that important". Yes, you are. If you weren't, the Big Tech wouldn't go to such length to acquire all the data about you, they can put their sweaty palms on.

[–] SeatBeeSate@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

You are human, and therefore data. Anything helps them train AI and use you for marketing data.

[–] NoisyOne57@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying it shouldn't, but that IMO, nothing of value was lost.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

Which has to mean that they're blocking everyone from accessing Threads via VPN, since they can't tell where the real source is beyond the VPN exit server.

Authoritarian regimes like China do this, too, unsuccessfully.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 year ago

That’s good for both sides

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Of course they are blocking VPNs, but using one to access Meta is more effort than it's worth.

[–] UnPassive@social.fossware.space 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How are they doing this though? They just black list any traffic coming from all VPNs they know about?

What if someone in the US were to use a VPN?

Or are they getting location data from the phone itself?

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Meta has exposure to enough of the internet that I'm sure they can identify VPNs relatively accurately. If you see activity coming from a single IP associated with users that you know to be located all over the world, you can draw conclusions pretty fast.

[–] Boddhisatva@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It's an app. Maybe it requires GPS access so they can track that data point. VPN says USA, GPS says Germany, they block access.

[–] downpunxx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Double Jump VPN activate

[–] ehrenschwan@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find this very hilarious after seeing so many people make threads accs and posting them to their stories on insta when you can't even use the app. And I kept thinking about the mountaons of data their collecting.

[–] NoisyOne57@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It wasn't even launched in the entirety of EU and the Republic of Ireland at all, because of GDPR concerns, but then, the Digital Markets Act also chimed in.

[–] Tischkante@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm on it in Testfight, it's interesting for like 3 days, now it's already dying down.

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago
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