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US stocks were sharply lower Friday as investors digested souring consumer sentiment and inflation data that showed an uptick in one of the Federal Reserve’s key gauges, underscoring the delicate state of the economy as businesses brace for President Donald Trump’s tariffs.

The Dow tumbled 750 points, or 1.77%, on Friday. The broader S&P 500 fell 2.1% and the Nasdaq Composite slid 2.8%.

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Wall Street was also grappling with Trump’s announcement on Wednesday of 25% tariffs on all cars shipped into the US, set to go into effect April 3. Trump also announced tariffs on car parts like engines and transmissions, set to take effect “no later than May 3,” according to the proclamation he signed.

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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Thanks Trump

[–] Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

This is also called a buy phase

Buy low, sell high

Trumps policies are expected to pass costs on to consumers but have the benefit of maintaining production and development internally which should long term keep more money inside the USA, hardening supply lines against foreign influence. Given that China is openly campaigning for war on Taiwan by 2027 latest, and they're responsible for close to 80% of critical imports to US minerals, this puts the US in a predicament which Trump (probably not on purpose tbh, I won't give him the credit) is preparing for.

Tariffs on raw metals and minerals have proven effective since his first term with significant improvements in domestic refinement.

-"Tardif pass-through and implications for domestic markets: Evidence from US steel imports" Ahmad et al. (2023).

This isn't shared by other aspects of the supply network though like finished products or more complicated manufacturing because market instability halts investment in those areas, so no development actually increases in the US and prices just increase. This is a fatal flaw in the tariff calculus that is hurting trade and the economy. Manufacturing takes years to develop and adapt, and no one will leap on that kind of investment without clear assurances.

[–] Ironfist@lemmy.ca 132 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 70 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Billionaires and corporations are absolutely winning, in the foreseeable future.

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[–] Asetru@feddit.org 100 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

We also believe the dynamic macro environment has contributed to a more cautious consumer

Am I getting this right? Is this double speak for "the government is fucking up so badly, people try to save some wealth for the inevitable fall of society"?

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago

I think that is what the main point is. Brace for extremely hard times.

[–] courageousstep@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

I look forward to mainstream media using real words with real meaning, again.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Looks like I made the right choice pulling most of my 401k out of stock/blended funds and into stable bonds.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Looks like I made the right choice by not saving money at all and working until I die.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

[–] SilverCode@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least you don't have a drinking problem

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bro just quit buying avocado toast and pull yourself up by them bootstraps, you're just not working hard enough bro get on the grind and then you can maybe retire in a slightly larger cardboard box

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

Looks like I made the right choice pulling most of my 401k out of stock/blended funds and into stable bonds.

You've made HALF the right choice. You "sold high", which is great!

However, the harder part is knowing when to go back in for the "buy low" part. If you're out of the market when that recovery occurs you'll be missing out on those gains. I've look at historical recoveries and can tell there is no way I'll know when that time is. I will guess wrong every time.

I hope you're better at it than I am.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

11 weeks ago, '2023' was last year.

This isn't a slump yet. If Dougie shuts off the power to three states, I hope he does it during a break between the "oh no unregulated drinking water had maaaaaaaassive e.coli in it" diarrhea outbreak right when the softwood tariffs have cratered the toilet paper supply the worst.

At that point in time, expect a stark realization of the state of things to cause some sadness to leak into the market too. I predict three northern states fighting for black market TP and shitting prolifically in the dark to really affect the market. But probably, still, not his numbers.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this isnt a slump yet

Technically we are in correction territory, so id say we are a slump. This isnt the bottom though. Get some puts and ride this baby all the way down. I hit 10x on tesla puts that i bought yesterday. This markets dumb and with the volatility this high, everyone should be making money if they sell when they are green and done diamond hand it

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I love this idea that while 60% of the country is living paycheck to paycheck “everyone should be making money” like everyone has money to invest. We are well and truly fucked

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

From a Canadian masterpiece of a videogame:

Like all of you, I was born poor, with but a meager derivatives portfolio and limited vesting options.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have an acquaintance that works for an old money, very wealthy family from oil money. The kind that influences regional as well as national politics. He worked for them during the last major recession in the late ‘00s. He basically said that his employer and all their buddies were running all over the world buying everything they could “like it is a fire sale” during the recession.

So yeah. This is how we get more billionaires, more oligarchs, and more meta national corpo monopolies where one company controls multiple brand names.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

The best we can do is to quit as soon as your company gets purchased. What they are after is the people. Specially the key role people.

Don't document your process. Fix things without opening change requests. That way if you assemble things the quality will drop when you leave.

If you're in a key role, just quit. Don't go fucking around by deleting data. It's better to make up data instead that seems real but is not. Never write an email that is personal or has anger in it because, even if you don't send it, it gets saved. Same for your teams messages. You want to stay in the industry, but just quit if your company gets taken over by a billionaire.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I find it deeply funny that fascism is completely compatible with capitalism (it's arguably its end-state), but they're still tanking the economy because Trump doesn't understand tariffs.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fascism ultimately tanks any system because it prices loyalty above all else and you inevitably end up without any compitent people in charge.

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[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

wow, pandemic numbers without a pandemic. trump rules...!

[–] match@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago

imagine what it'll look like when the second pandemic hits

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I told my partner that we needed to stop excessive spending like going out to eat while the economy is so uncertain. She was ok with that. I'm not feeling great about our (collective) future. Sigh.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hate that going for a meal out is considered excessive, from someone who is in the same boat as you.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

And all restaurant owners are probably bracing for this to hit hard.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Personally, I am guessing that the American Dollar will end up like the Weimer Republic's currencies.

I am removing my life savings from the bank and turning them into Euros. Everyone's economy will dip, but I am pretty certain America will have a Greater Depression. Unlike the Great Depression or the Weimer Republic, the annihilation of government agencies and fiscal instruments is deliberate & total.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Honestly, kinda surprised it is only dropping this much. Would have though the collapse of the free world as we know it to have more of an impact.

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[–] griff@lemmings.world 14 points 1 week ago

Stable genius getting results!!!

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's hard to lie about stock prices, let's watch them continue to shout their propaganda as the riots start.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. They inherited Biden's economy

  2. trump can't affect anything so soon

  3. It would be worse under Kamala

  4. We'll just have to suffer a little pain while trump fixes things

Take your pick of weak excuse

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At this point the people that still like trump would happily live in a cardboard box as long as people they didn't like were denied a cardboard box

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[–] borokov@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile, the CAC40...

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

OMG... Trump was lying about fixing the economy? Please say it isn't so!

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This brings a smile to my face. My stocks are somehow all steady. The smile is not for those like me losing out. It for all those rich 1-3% who it really hurts. When the orange tumor and his apartheid nazi loses their support then perhaps we can do something that doesn't equate to civil war.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

lol, no. Rich ppl just gonna buy when retail sells. Smart money sold already.

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