If anyone were really worried about privacy, all internet related companies would be in bankruptcy. Apple? Meta? Google? SnapChat? Reddit? You name it, their whole purpose is collecting the personal data of their users.
Privacy
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
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- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
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I'm sorry, what now?
There is no place on this earth with better privacy protection laws
Yeah, it's still far from perfect but to call ot the greatest threat is just disingenuous, it's a lie. It's shouting FIRE in a movie theater because someone smokes. Stop doing this shit
Accidental self-own admitting to everyone you haven’t been paying attention to the EU’s aggressive software backdoor agenda.
If you don’t have privacy from the government, you don’t have privacy.
If you don’t have privacy from the government, you don’t have privacy.
Privacy refers to more than just privacy regarding the government.
Your threat model and situation might mean that if the government knows something, its as bad as if every single person knows it.
But this isn't for everyone.
EU has the best privacy laws, only behind Switzerland.
They will not be close to the greatest threat, but it will still be a step back.
Also, these are proposals that has not been voted in ever before. So be sure to vote for politicians that wont, so we can keep it that way.
Privacy from whom? Privacy from corporations means nothing if you have zero privacy from a neoliberal corporate government.
Right. Let's start by the right to privacy written in the constitution. A constitution is not for companies/corporations/enterprises/zaibatsus/gafam/moral entities.
True, but most of the Europeans dont have those governments.
Which of them are blocking EU attempts to mandate government backdoors?
The title is missing a second part: "after China, the US, Russia, the UK, etc.".
I get that privacy is potentially in danger if chatcontrol passes (ie. it's not right now) and that to raise awareness is worthwhile, but misrepresenting one of the best places privacy-wise as "one of the greatest threats" is just dishonest.
The EU is interesting because there is the GDPR that has good data privacy protection but then they keep bringing up chat control which completely undermines privacy
"They" being some proponents starting with Ylva Johansson, but it's also true that they have never had a majority to actually make chat control happen. They keep trying, but "they" are not the EU as a whole.
Because they support limited privacy from corporations, but zero privacy from government. The neoliberals don’t consider that a double standard.
None of those countries are trying to dismantle encryption entirely so no, I disagree.
Well, the UK sure is trying, and the US was also thinking about it (never got to law-making at least)
No, those countries are not enshrining in law the requirement for backdoors to serve your own government, for which you’ll be required to comply.
in other news: big tech oligarchy takes aim at EU privacy laws.
Through Sweden. If they want to pass this, they can commit Swexit.
Literally no other country (including Germany, which wanted to be in the Five Eyes) has ever proposed this.
Both are true
Non sensationalist broligarch funded shitrag version.
"Broligarch"
Sadly not my coinage, I stole it from someone. :)
That's OK. In this context theft is art.
In a world where the Great Firewall and the Five Eyes exist? Sure buddy
When does this stupid joke of a EU law end....
Never probably, these are law proposals.
They have never been voted in, as the majority of EU doesnt want them.
So makes sure to vote in politicans that wont, so we can keep it that way.
I hope that the current insufferability of US realities will help shed this law from our fates
You always have to balance it with law enforcement. Being at the mercy of criminals, life savings stolen by scammers, etc is not freedom.