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DHS allows surveillance based on sexual orientation. Reddit's privacy moderators ban any mention of it (lemm.ee)
submitted 2 days ago by LWD@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/60365167

Case 1

Original post

Moderator carrotcypher says "removed for paywall." When asked about which rule this breaks, receives no response. The post is then locked.

Case 2

Original post

Same as the first, except this time there is no paywall - the link is to a freely accessible advocate.com page.

It is censored with no explanation.

Case 3

Original post

Same as Case 2, moderators censor the post and leave no explanation.

Case 4

Original post

This one is finally given a removal reason: a rule that does not exist in the sidebar, and seems to have nothing to do with the post ("Your post has been removed for being too specific to a company or single product.")

But in a censored comment, the OP of the post says they received a different removal reason:

Holy shit I'm banned for 30 days for "conspiracy spreading". This sub is cooked

This time, other people notice the censorship and the nonsensical nature of the official removal reason.

Since this removal, there has been no further post of this news in r/privacy. Sources tell me the moderators refuse to explain their decision.

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[–] antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Out of curiosity, found 3 versions of the policy manual edits. As of Jan 19, it prohibited operations based on gender, gender identity, or sexual orientation. Sometime around February it removed those terms, adding "sex." Around March, and current as of 2025-04-06, it readded sexual orientation, presumably after this hitting the news, making the allowance of basing operations on gender identity more pointed.

Sources, page 79: https://web.archive.org/web/20250119072246/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2025-01/Office%20of%20Intelligence%20and%20Analysis%20Policy%20Manual.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20250222000624/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2025-02/Office%20of%20Intelligence%20and%20Analysis%20Policy%20Manual-508.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20250323044321/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/25_0313_ia_office-of-intelligence-and-analysis_policy-manual.pdf

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Here are the sources for the DHS allowing surveillance of minorities:

Carrotcypher is one of the moderators of the FOSStodon server... To keep this more related to privacy and not bad moderation, I've added more details here.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

From my (not extremely long) experience in that sub I can say that user is an active and helpful contributor with a good reputation. But Reddit is a corporate sewer so... EDIT: I am referring to lo_______ol

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Indeed. I have seen lo______ol around for a while now. We need to name and shame Reddit mods. And move more people to Lemmy. Unfortunately, the Reddit boycott didn't go well because normies have a sick compulsion to pardon any and all acts by corporate. Normies are the biggest digital masochists sans exception

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Some mods are actually in cahoots with admins, and some admins could be mods themselves

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Fucking normies. I don't want them over here. You can call spez a cunt until you're blue in the face (and you wouldn't be wrong) but it's the normies who spent thousands of man hours turning the place to shit.

[–] don@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Had an account on it for 12 years, and while I miss the old days, I’m as glad I wiped my account there as I am I did the same with xhitter. 🖕😤🖕^(yeah I got two right hands u jelly?)^

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You got no hands. Sure, most can't read what you "deleted" but if you think you actually deleted where it counts...I don't know what to tell you.

[–] don@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you’re referring to using a services that overwrites your comment history, yes, I used one and checked to see if they were actually overwritten.

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're talking about what reddit shows. I'm talking about it's record database. History never gets deleted.

Let's just say reddit actually does delete its own database (even though we know better). The NSA doesn't delete *it's copy.

Holds out a little box to you.

Here's a dumdum kid!

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

you have access to the reddit database? because i don't see how you can actually be sure otherwise..

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Doesn't delete it from Reddit's servers unfortunately. All you've done is prevented people who might have been interested in your answers to not discover them anymore. And maybe the odd occasional bot that slips through the cracks

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of all subreddits i ever visited, that one was THE WORST. There are certain words like graphene that will get your comment auto removed and maybe even banned. Rather than allow privacy minded people to discuss things, the mod(s) enforce their own flavor of privacy on everyone and will not let anything be posted that goes against what they deem acceptable

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Do you know what they have against Graphene?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Basically the head dev if graphene was a dick, but tbh so is Torvalds and I'm not about to stop using linux. That dev stepped down as head anyway iirc, still works on the project (which is good, cause he's good) but just isn't the face anymore (which is good, cause he is a dick lmao.)

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Some whiny BS as I remember, the mods were just being typical reddit mods.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ITS FUCKING REDDIT

Why are you even trying at this point; stop wasting your time on that shithole and move on.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In part, because one of the fucking Reddit moderators is now also a FOSStodon moderator, and I think FOSStodon admins might appreciate seeing a pattern of bad behavior

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

Not a bad idea. I'll try to crosspost that news a few times later during the weekend to help build the bad behaviour portfolio.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One man's PTB is another man's opportunity. Feel free to link them to lemmy/this community lol

edit: feel free to post these articles here, they're relevant

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That community has been compromised for a few years now..

Ithink 2-3 years there was a huge privacy push and topic got hot, then weird info suppression started.

Looks like regime and theirs whores didn't like pedons ask 'em questions

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 3 points 1 day ago

You say to much.

That community has been compromised

See? That's enough.

Since origin. Be design. They were never special against the any of the other info vampires. The only difference between them and FBInc, TwiXXXer, and the other Big Fangs was that they didn't originally ask you for nearly as much info. That was just a chantry of pretending not to collect what it knew was already being gathered anyway.