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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

You know. I would try to fight this as a statement if we did not put in our constitution that slavery is fine for prisoners.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The original document had the 3/5 compromise

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[-] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

OMG guys americabad amirite

[-] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

This could apply to any number of countries and it's getting kinda tedious. It's like a bunch of American teenagers just learned that their history books aren't telling the whole story and literally cannot stop talking about it. You hit college level history, congratulations, good for you champ.

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[-] Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zone 23 points 1 year ago

Well yeah… in lots of ways.

Good in others, as an Australian who traveled there the average American is great. I just think you’ve been intentionally fragmented and manipulated. So there are large groups of people who want their country to change but cannot seem to find common ground and band together to strengthen those ideas.

Then you have such powerfully rich and crazy groups that seem to be able to rule the narrative

[-] Sirosky@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Had to check to make sure I wasn't on Reddit again.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I had to check too cause "americabadamirite" complaints are basically peak Reddit since the Digg migration and shortly after.

Before then, I feel like I remember it being a lot less defensive about people daring to...criticize America

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago
[-] DrMux@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

There's a huge difference between "lol le dum fat burger chez merica" and commentary about the history of the country and the patterns, systems, and dark truths that made it what it is today. Is there any one element in this meme that you'd argue is false?

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[-] Little8Lost@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

you mean the united military budget of 50 3 world countries

[-] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Or 10-11 top military leading countries in the world?

[-] simple@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
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[-] Fhek@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Murica 💩

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] GrandFunkMonorail@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The US has capitalism? Seems pretty regulated by people bought by corporations to me.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's...capitalism. In a profit-seeking society, there's no greater profit than taking control of the society's government. There's no such thing as "crony capitalism" if that is what you are referring to. It's all a part of the game. Any sufficiently powerful company will eventually attempt to manipulate the law and regulations for their own gain.

The Soviet Union is basically what it would look like if a single corporation managed to completely take over society and push out all competition. That's why some people argue that it was a type of society known as "state capitalist", instead of communist, since they never actually did away with money, class, or hierarchy.

Another good example would be "Buy-N-Large" from the movie "Wall-E", although from reading the backstory on them, it seems like a more benevolent entity than we would expect from such a monopoly. Faced with declining profits from a failing economy and environment due to their grip on it, they implemented a system of universal income so that they could continue to have customers. They slowly became the world government and effectively operated as one.

[-] redditcunts@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Can you define tankie? Because I don't think that word means what you think it means

[-] Shit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Authoritarianism leftists are tankies. To be fair they are pretty much the same as authoritarianism rightists. They both want to abolish liberalism before they duke it out over economic models.

[-] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You are right about the definition of tankies. People forget that views can be shared by varied groups. Pretty much liberals and to their left would agree with this message.

[-] Shit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

? Liberalism is an updown issue not a left right issue? You can be economically right and be a liberal...

[-] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I struggled to understand at first. You are talking in terms from the messed up 2 axis political compass thing? Ideologies have positions in simplified lists and axis, but you have to be careful of oversimplifying them. That system to me is propaganda to deligitimise groups like my own(anarcho-pacifist). The opposite of totalitarianism is anarchism. Libertarianism got co-opted, it used to be anarchism and is now the totalitarianism of capitalism with the smallest government.

Liberals if you want to put it that way, are pro-capitalist, relatively socially progressive. I think the standard left/right thing messes up the tankie position, which makes this quadrant thing even more awkward.

Sorry for the messy answer. Feeling a bit tired and wanted to answer you

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[-] animist@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Eh this is one of those times that a broken tankie clock is correct

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[-] words_number@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Oof level: over 9000

(Yes, old memes are back!)

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also salty level: over 9000

[-] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 1 points 1 year ago

Obviously those things (except capitalism and some wars) are bad, but literally every country has a history of essentially the same thing.

[-] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Obviously all those things ~~(except capitalism and some wars)~~ are bad

Ftfy

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