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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not against violence as a solution. It just shouldn't be the first solution you come up with, or the second.... Or the third.

Violence as a solution is a last resort.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

'Violence is the last resort of the incompetent'

Hari Seldon

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago

For everyone who says something like that, i try to remind them of this little things called WWII

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't discuss a fascist away, but you can get rid of him by violent means. Violence is sometimes morally acceptable if not outright required even.

[–] Slam_Eye@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Who has the moral authority to decide when or when not to use violence?

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Usually whoever has the most accumulated violence. History is written...

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How about this:

Violence is never a good solution but a necessary one and one any functioning government will prevent its populous from using against themselves or else they would no longer function as a a government so the best we can ask for is a government that does the least harm and considering we have had a longer span of peace than any preceding civilisation then we can conclude a violent uprising would cause more harm than good so we should except the status quo given it's net benefit to the collective, however there will inevitably be those who society is less beneficial too so much so that a revolution would be beneficial but the individual cannot rule the collective because that would be a dictator and no stable society could exist when one man has grievances against it can dismantle it so we must always weigh the the against the benefits heavily before considering any sort of rebellion while simultaneously keeping in mind the overwhelming likelihood that it will outright fail given the powerful by definition have more power than the weak and include the resulting loss in our calculation.

What do you think? To wordy or will it catch on?

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

I found some of these on the floor, I think you dropped them: ,,,,,,.,.,.,,.,,,.,.,

[–] Atmoro@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The equalizer is Collective Power of all the people uniting in-person and online

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

A government is a collection of people working together to maintain power.

It does not include everyone because they simply do not need everyone, given the trillions of dollars they have they could easily afford to pay for as many people as they need if that was the most efficient use of their money, given they can increase to the size of the population under one unified cause we can assume a fragmented group of people with there own agendas would be a less effective force than the majority of stable government's

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna need this in meme form with no more than 15 words

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago
[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We failed to make Russia bend the knee with soft power.

Rearming Europe, after decades of trying without, is necessary because there's an ongoing war in Europe.

We overestimated our influence without an army, and that's even with the army of turkey and USA on our side in case we'd get attacked.

Violence is necessary, just unwanted. If someone hits my wife then I'm not going to use my words to solve the situation.

It's complicated because if you give everyone a gun, then there's a shooting happening every day. Give nobody a gun, then we don't know how to defend our countries.

Pros and cons to be outweighed, depending on the larger context.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Gotta say, for all y'all mocked the good ol US of A, you sure put a lot of faith in it. Trust to a fault.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Obama/Biden were good for Europe. Trump is bad.

If the next president is good for europe, then so be it.

But the volatility shows that changes must be made. More autonomy, the stability of china is actually looking quite good.

But china shows different issues. That of freedom of expression.

So, we'll need to rearm, have a bit more hard power. We can't be the only ones trying without.

Get rid of your military might and then we can do the same. But nah, that's not going to happen.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

"Obama/Biden were good for Europe"

Were they though? I mean really?

They convinced the entire western world to depend on them for military protection as America has been doing since the end of WWII, knowing full well that when push comes to shove they are still under the American government, and they used that Hard power to gain soft power in everything from trade to economics to diplomacy, the USA has been slowly accumulating power all while convincing Europe to disarm.

Trump is no more against Europe than the rest of the presidents he's just an idiot who showed the mice the cheese in the trap.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Both powers have been handling in their own interest.

Biden sending funding to Ukraine has been good for Europe. Trump stopping this funding has been bad for Europe.

Biden wants to keep the American hegemony.

Trump wants to isolate the USA in favour of companies inside the country.

The EU hasn't been arming themselves because there was no need for it. Not threatening with weapons is being a quite attractive trade partner. The lack of weapons caused Europe to be more stable when cooperating with eachother.

There has been a major history of infighting in Europe. So unifying ourselves after the 2nd world war is a major benefit for us.

Now that we are more unified, we can rearm ourselves properly. With hopefully a European army that defends the whole European union.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Anyone who thinks violence has never solved anything should open a history book

The credible threat of violence is often much more powerful than violence itself. See unions, the civil rights movement, mutually assured destruction.

Society is very often an implicit contract of "do what we want or else." Without the "or else", the powerful have no reason to listen.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a reason why we're taught about MLK instead of Malcolm X.

They're well aware of how little nonviolent protest accomplishes in the end.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

A very good example of an exception, no doubt. Shall we tally up the number of times it took violence to drive out the British, though?

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A more accurate morality would be "Violence should never be the first course of action".

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Violence should never be employed

  • against someone who is not harming you or infringing on your rights

  • against a party genuinely willing to negotiate

  • when your use of violence will seem excessive to onlookers such that they will turn against you

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

violence is never the solution, but it works in a pinch for sure : )

Of course the solution to peace is not having war, but if someone attacks you, don't just stand there and do nothing.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

The threat of violence is always there.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Yep. Violence isn't the solution, it's the last resort.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 108 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Violence is often the solution, but it shouldn't be the first solution we try.

It's stupid to assert that law enforcement should be completely unarmed. There's absolutely legitimate situations where it's in the public's best interest. Now, the situations that do require it aren't super common, but they exist.

Violence is always the solution. If there's an example for major changes implemented without at least an implicit threat of violence, that's the absolute exception. All big changes always require (the threat of) violence.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In the US at least, law enforcement is overarmed. We'd cut back on a lot of unnecessary violence if, say, officers kept their guns in the trunk rather than on their hip.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 36 points 1 day ago

Police Union: How could you trample on the sacred rights of the police to escalate any situation into multiple fatalities?

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Or you could do what Finland does, and make an independent investigation every time the police shoots someone.

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[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 59 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Violence is almost always the solution. Civilization is an effort to find a better solution. But people who reject the systems we've built up seem to forget why we built then.

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

Self defense is a thing. I notice most these comics that end up on my front page pretty much suck. Oh a .ml post. I see. Is there a non .ml version of "comics" somewhere?

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Complete the following sentence:

"Live by the sword, ___ __ ___ _____."

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

fish on my couch

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

shit on my chest

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