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[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welcome to the fuck america club

Leave your guns at the door

[–] x3x3@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago

And be one with the nanny state

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I was imaging this meme just last week, while my wife finished renewing her Italian passport and stuffing a bugout bag full of Euros.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Until we undo capitalism, we are going to have these 80 year cycles

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, the cycle started with the implementation of capitalism. Italy was functionally feudalistic (particularly in the southern territories) until the mid-19th century, with state power relegated to a hodgepodge of principalities. It's only really been a unified country since 1870 and lagged on industrialization until the Cold War Era, when the US Marshall Plan made it an industrial and shipping beachhead for NATO-bloc manufacturing and trade (as well as a military base to strike out at North Africa and the Middle East).

The waves of Italian immigrants weren't fleeing capitalism. They were fleeing the two World Wars and the industrial collapse of Europe. Americans, by contrast, won't experience the same immediate socio-economic pressures to leave. So I suspect a lot of the reverse-migration we'll see to Italy will be coming from an American wealthy middle class seeking to retire into a post-industrial retirement playground rather than an Italian underclass seeking gainful employment and safety from chronic civil wars and invasions.

Italy is going to be more like Florida in the 1990s than New Jersey in the 1920s.

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[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Uruguay has a pretty easy system you can make a request of residence and it seems that usually go through. Americans do not need a visa to come but if you prepare the paperwork is easier..

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only issue is crime has gotten worse there over the years

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Immigration has increased too as well

[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tell me more about Uruguay. What's irs like over there, standard of living etc.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A quick scan of Wikipedia shows there's an actual left wing party currently in power that was formerly led by a guerilla fighter during the military occupation of the country in the 80s

As well they legalized abortions in 2012 and weed and same sex marriage in 2013

It's got a 3 branch government similar to America

Economy seems stable, Internet seems good.

Guess it's time to start learning Portuguese or Spanish!

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The left wing party is not led by a former guerrila fighter but said one Jose Mujica was president yes here the president is important yes but not the all powerful figure. That was in the 70s (the guerrilla thing) and they all admitted that doing a revolution was not the best answer to the political trumoil. Also the militia coup was backed by Nixon so there is that.

And it's Spanish the official language.

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[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Best option on Latin America on pretty much any standard. Progressive laws, good weather - main negative thing I can think of is that rent can be quite expensive. I've considered moving there in the past but my Spanish is awful.

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 157 points 2 days ago (20 children)

/pedant the term would be “emigrating”

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 57 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Specifically the second one.

immigrate from Europe

emigrate to Europe

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[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Fascism is on the rise in Europe too so maybe go to Japan or something

[–] randomname@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yes, the country famous for being accepting of foreigners, that is also known for a high standard of living...

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok then move to mars, final offer

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Venezuela is nice at this time of the year too

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The far-right in Europe seems to have lost momentum a bit-- for now. The far-right parties in government in Sweden and Netherlands proved themselves incompetent and lost support. The support on German AfD stagnated. Meloni has shown to be more moderate than expected (well, not quite but that's a long story). And Le Pen has been prosecuted, but I think this is not enough to actually kill the French far-right movement so long as the French government still practice neoliberal policies. But I think the major factor that made Europeans think twice now about gravitating towards fascism is after witnessing the shit show in America and Musk's overt election interference in Europe. I should not be laughing, but what a laugh the three months of Trump administration has been!

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Incompetence, it seems, is what is valued here in America to go up the ranks.

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[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

As a Japanese, I think Japan has always been a fascists' country. The flavor of nazism did change from Germany one to American one after WW2, though

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (24 children)

They’re extremely racist, which is a huge plus, just like the Swiss flag 🇨🇭

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Japanese are starting to hate gaijin. Because of disrespectful tourists and “influencers”.

https://youtu.be/BR7B0Pjh3lE

[–] Brandonazz@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Starting? Japan has a long, proud history of xenophobia.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 20 points 2 days ago

As someone who lives in Japan, I've got some bad news for you...

The good news is that it's mostly just the olds. The bad news is that it isn't exclusively just the older generations.

[–] nico198X@feddit.nl 14 points 2 days ago (7 children)

still, EU countries have far superior electoral systems than the US to help mitigate the rise and influence of Fascism.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 112 points 2 days ago (8 children)
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