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[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 7 points 1 day ago

Fun fact: there's no such thing as a legal name in most states. There's names you use, names assigned at birth, but no legal name.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

This headline is horseshit so I've only read enough to establish that much and am ignoring the rest of the article. Someone post a different one.

Here's all you need to know from the article:

Republicans, and apparently some Democrats

many have warned that it could even make it harder for married women to vote.

The only conclusion you should draw is this: Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever. You may conclude as you wish about all other matters based on other sources.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're being extreme. I suppose headline is misleading because the bill would have passed without Democrat support, and it doesn't directly restrict the voting of married women. But four house democrats did vote for this (presumably because they're in swing districts or border towns?), and the premise (requiring proof of citizenship is soft voter supression) appears to be true.

But you are touching on something I feel. Lots of really sensationalist sources float to the top of Lemmy's front page.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

New Republic is the worst. The Trump administration already does a lot of really awful, shitty, terrible things that deserve sunlight without sensationalizing shit, but they make a lot of sensationalist articles and a lot of "Oh Boy this ONE maga voter is really sorry now!" pieces. It's got big institutional Democrat energy.

That said, yes, the headline is indirectly correct.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Rawstory is pretty bad too. Blogs/tweets that float up can be even worse.

I get it, people have their regular sources and well we should do something about it and post better ones if we don't like it, but still.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This headline is horseshit

The legislation fucks with the ability for women who change their last name after marriage to obtain the IDs necessary to cast a ballot, which are increasingly fixated on tying everything back to your Birth Certificate. Four Democrats supported this bill, ostensibly in order to fuck over Transgender people.

Incidentally, one of the four - Henry Cuellar - is indicted on charges of bribery, unlawful foreign influence, and money laundering, allegedly accepting nearly $600,000 in bribes from foreign entities in exchange for political favors. Crazy that Dem megadonors continue to back him in election after election.

Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever.

My guy, you're the one spewing horseshit here.

[–] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

right I thought I was waking up in crazy town. many women change their names and do not update their birth certificate My therapist was literally telling me about her issues with doing it because she's been divorced a couple times this legislation directly impacts women and trans people specifically. It is intentionally written to make it harder for people in these groups to vote me personally I'm in the middle of getting my birth certificate updated so I'm hoping it won't be a problem by the time midterms come up, but overall this bill is a bad bill it's not needed there's no need for this bill it's absolutely pointless and pathetic attempt at voter manipulation

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 78 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No Democrat should vote for a single Nazi bill, ever.

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[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But that means something like 204 democrats voted against. Maybe if those 4 hadn't of supported the bill, it might have failed, but you can't blame the democrats for a shitty bill when 97% voted against.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

It still would have passed. 208-212

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[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Or at least vote for the progressive in the primary first.

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[–] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not these four cowardly DINOs that make me lose faith in this country. It's the people continuing to defend them.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think anyone defends them.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago

Wonder how much they’re getting paid?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 173 points 3 days ago (48 children)

IANAL but in my reading of the text of the bill the only way for a married woman that took her partner's last name (that wasn't in the military with her married name) to be able to vote if this becomes law is for them to spend at least $30 to get a USA Passport card. This would tick all the boxes the bill requires for these women:

  • Government ID
  • Shows citizenship status (by nature of it being a Passport)
  • Shows place of birth
  • Shows the married last name

...or as I'm calling it:

This is violation of the 24th Amendment banning poll Taxes.

In this case, its a required fee married women must pay to be able to use their Constitutional guaranteed right to vote granted by the 19th Amendment. How is this not a poll tax by another name on married women?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Consider this too. A woman has all of her ducks in a row with her married last name, and then divorces her POS republican husband. Now she needs to re-establish her identity all over again.

For the ladies out there (or anyone getting married) keep your last name. My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

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[–] sporkler@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how the republicans voted?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For freedom from having to deal with all the pesky women who vote democrat.

Although more and more women aren't changing their name because it's a stupid tradition, but obviously that skews liberal, so it may be hurting republican women more... Which actually checks out, since republicans generally hurt their own (voting) constituents in favor of their true, rich constituency.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 120 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (47 children)

“Four democrats passed this,” but we are just going to ignore the 216 conservatives that passed it?

So when do we get to start calling bullshit like this propaganda?

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

"man bites dog" vs "dog bites man"

We all know what the Republicans unanimously stand for. Apparently some democrats do too, and that's worth noting.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (25 children)

Everyone expects the scorpion to stab the frog, it's in its nature.

Everyone expects Republicans to be totally corrupt monsters.

The people we are supposed to depend on to fight monsters keep helping them pass bills when they could be blocking them.

This means they are complicit. There's always enough traitors to make the bad things pass, never enough cooperation to make the good things pass when they have a majority.

The Democrats have been playing this game for too long and it's saf you haven't started to notice too.

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[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People expect the representative they voted for to vote how they want. Conservatives' representative voted as they wanted. Whereas Democrats' representative voted against their wishes. Hence the outrage.

This is a simplistic explanation, 4 Democratic representative might have voted as their constituents have demanded.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My initial reaction to this headline was: "what now?", and my first reaction on reading the article was "oh, it's a continuation of the horror show that calls itself US government - not actually something that four democrats are responsible for"

So I'm totally with you. Stop the sanewashing of the continued and systematic madness rising to ever new heights of depravity, should be the headline.

Republicans built the foundation for what's happening now for decades, and it was always like you said in your other comment: "Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do." Well, slightly more differentiated.

This bill is yet another voter supression tool. This is what they ultimately want: you have to be rich, male, of a certain ethic, and "white" to have a say. And they're almost there. If voting was really made easy for everyone, do you really think the GOP would still win?
This is yet another piece of codified and systemic racism, misogyny, homo- and transphobia, richism.
The hollowing out of what was once a working, relatively democratic system to a point where even the empty shell is starting to break up.

All that said, Democrats should start wielding what power they have (both in the government and in media, public opinion etc.) way more decisively. Between elections we must talk about how fucked up both parties are.

This comment (from this post) puts it best imho:
https://lemmy.world/comment/16414382
https://feddit.org/post/10702307/6001640

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[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 151 points 3 days ago (27 children)

I love how they never once mention in the article that Republicans wrote the bill, proposed it, and 100% of them voted in favor of it.

But, despite all that...the headline still reads, "Democrats passed it".

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 160 points 3 days ago

Because we expect that from Republicans. It’s the democrats defecting that is the worrisome part.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 96 points 3 days ago (12 children)

The fact that Republicans want to take away peoples' ability to vote isn't really news, but the fact that any Democrats supported it is.

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[–] goofus@lemmy.today 97 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Jared Golden, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Henry Cuellar, and Ed Case

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