I do not believe any serious future society will allow completely anonymous internet for its users. There's just too much harm that comes from being able to say and do whatever without your person being associated with it.
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That if you move to another country you should be learning that language to the best of your capabilities. I work with a lot of foreigners and the amount of them that are incapable or simply unwilling to speak, in my case, Dutch is insanely high. I do think we as a society should invest more in schooling and developing both the native and the new language of course. But learn the fucking language. At least try.
a) languages are hard. but immersion helps
b) I think the vast majority if expats won't even consider learning the local language.
Languages is hard that's true. An initiative our party took is the 'festival of the mother tongue' in which many different nationalities can showcase their language and local cuisine and whatnot. Really helps people think about language.
Also, it turns out that further developing your native language can also help with learning a new language. Hence why I think it's important to stimulate that as well though reading and stuff.
also the question is if there are programs to help people learn the local language, rather then demonising them for struggling
Ok but it's Dutch, I understand the hesitation
Everybody ganster until they have to pronounce arbeidsongeschiktheidsverzekering
I agree, especially for those American expats
As a global south citizen, I don't care a single iota about domestic/social cultural policies of western politicians or parties, and would be glad to see a socially conservative movement take power there if it meant an end to Genocide, War, and economic exploitation in my part of the world. I guess it is some form of critical support, same reason I support Iran and Russia in their resistance to Imperialism despite their less than ideal social stances.
I thought the question was "what is THE single most right wing view" and i was like "Idk probably supporting genocide" then i read the comments and was so confused.
Glad i didnt comment without reading the question again that would have looked bad.
Its hard cuz idk what even is right wing or isnt half the time.
I don't remember the exact quote, but i saw something like "To be a revolutionary is to be a ruthless bloodthirsty monster." attributed to Che Guevara. I agree with it. I think to operate as a revolutionary successfully against something like a capitalist regime you can't afford to limit your actions. You do what you have to do to win. No matter how cruel, no matter how unreasonable. Victory is the only goal. For any suffering you may cause pales in comparison to the suffering caused by your failure.
Market reforms of Deng were amazing
I hope you won't mind my ultra moment here. I think while the results speak for themselves, he got lucky.
Even in retrospect, Deng Xiaoping seems to be the rightmost someone can be and still reasonably be considered a communist. Looking at some of his unimplemented ideas and the policies that were reversed in the following decades, it's understandable why someone would think he was a capitalist roader in his time. The path he set the CPC on meant that the party had to walk a difficult tightrope, fooling the westerners by obfuscating their long-term plans while keeping the creeping liberalism at check. Whole the capacity of her administrators and will of her people played the main part, China couldn't have made it to today without fortune by their side.
Tldr I agree but only with hindsight
I think while the results speak for themselves, he got lucky.
It was a leap of faith and incredible trust in the future generations. If that went as market reforms did elswhere we would be now cursing him as second Gorbachev (or Gorbachev as second Deng). And the world could be as well completely doomed with no socialist China.
Death penalty is good actually, as long as it isn't used just on minorities. Super useful to scare capitalists.
Death penalty, but only for the bourgeoisie and for politicians who betray the proletariat
I don't think fear is a good reason to be using the death penalty. Tho tbf, considering the topic question, it does sound pretty right-wing to be wanting to use fear as a tactic to control people.
There should be substantial financial and social help given to families that want to have children, and they should get more help the more children they have.
(But to balance that out with a left wing policy, i also want free contraception for everyone who doesn't want children.)
Definitely. I hope China will be the first country to find a good solution to the birth crisis faced by all developed countries, since no capitalist country has found a solution yet. Reducing working hours, providing social support, increasing household wealth and living standards, and decreasing stress from raising kids should hopefully fix this.
Public smoking should be banned. And I'm not sure why so many people insist that they have a right to pollute everyone else's air. Especially when asthma is not an uncommom condition.
And kids are being hurt just by this drug abuse being on public display almost everywhere
Reading these comments got me like "🙂"
Comrades need to look presentable and dress normally when they are representing Marxism in a public form. Part of being a communist is appealing to everyday people. There is a reason why every successful communist movement, from the Panthers to the Bolsheviks, presented themselves well and professionally.
This isn't even really right-wing.
reform through forced labour is good, tho there is a clear distinction when it's on a capitalist country and private individuals profit of the prisoners labour to when the prisoner labour is used to develop the country, like gulags in the USSR.
Idk if it's right wing, but seconding what Comprehensive49 said, death penalty for bourgeoisie, nazis, fascists and also pedos and rapists are kill on sight.
Also, I don't know if this counts, but we really shouldn't pressure any countries to ditch their old believes and traditions which they had for centuries, for example, Muslim countries in terms of everyone suddenly accepting LGBT etc, it will come with time, it can't be done overnight. I'm of course not talking about Saudi Arabia and their monarchy, they have to go, but other Muslim countries
I have lived some time in North Africa(can't say which country) and have connection with a lot of people from there, since I'm asexual I haven't had any problems, but they really don't care about LGBT in best case scenario from my experience and some unfortunately see it as western thing but are otherwise some of the best people I met. So unless they're Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan in terms of it, I say let them be, with socialism, it will be better with time.
I agree on allowing culture to change naturally. When you try to abrupty impose social policies that oppose aspects of people's culture, they naturally push back. I feel that much of the hostility towards LGBT and the like seems to be due to people's desperation so they think that doing what "God" likes will get them more stuff. Naturally, if everyone has all the stuff they need, then no one will need to care much.
Not so much of a "view" as it is an action, but I unironically love buying army surplus stuff.
Gambling should be illegal
I'm just gonna say it, many of these really don't feel like explicitly right wing ideals and more just "things that most people actually see are reasonable but like, wouldn't be ok in a futuristic Star Trek level utopia," but are things that many people will agree upon makes sense given the current material and social conditions of society.
Not sure if this counts as right wing, but I sympathize with some of Dostoevsky's philosophy. If we look at how fascism triumphed over socialism, there was an irrational and emotional component to it that drew people in, which in some ways socialism fails to do because it's rooted in objectiveness. And I believe Dostoevsky touches on this in his works where he has characters that are disillusioned with society but also disillusioned with the revolutionary movement, because it all boils down to objectiveness. I believe he is a reactionary, but also in real life he was part of revolutionary movements so he has real lived experience of what it's like to try to change society, which I find interesting.
That being said I do think socialism can have a subjective appeal to the masses, in that it aims to ensure prosperity and liberation for all.
Maybe there should be limits to kids being on social media and on the internet
Honestly, many of these posts aren't even "right-wing" views, they're just shared positions like "guns are empowering to civilians", "have some respect for cultures you're entering and learn to communicate", "people raising a child should be supported", "child abusers should be removed from society".
The framing of some of these as "right-wing" or "anti-left" due to progressivist liberals is harmful and something we have to punch through. In my union, I had to put on a nice face and discuss with a member who only knew how to frame their legitimate proletarian objections to offshoring and porky's cost-cutting through terms like "woke nonsense", "diversity" and the like. And it sucks for them too, because their unfortunate, inaccurate choice of words lumps them in with absolute scum, and so they have to justify every other sentence with a good ol' "I'm not a racist" to try and clarify their objection (which, in this case, based on their other views and talking to them further, I really think was true and not just the classic shield tactic that Nazi scum abuse to feign humanity). When progressive liberals have garbage analysis and advocate idealist misguided solutions, that alienates reasonable people who might end up believing themselves to be "anti-left", given the Overton window puts proglibs in the "left" here.
I can only imagine if they talked to someone else who took their language at face value and then (understandably) dismissed them as an anti-worker pro-bigotry bastard etc. etc., instead of realizing it's just (for lack of a more neutral word) ignorance. Their legitimate proletarian concerns would be answered with dismissal or an attack. That's why we need to say loudly and clearly that we have shared proletarian values, not just "leftist" values.
(daily reminder that "left-right" is a nonsense subjective category anyway)
While I am a stern believer in criminal justice reform, we should be like China, absolutely no crime is tolerated, and addictive drugs, excluding marijuana, should be banned. This only happens if the police are controlled by the people, not the billionaire class.
any society will need some form of policing, we can only argue on how it should be structured.
however, we can't forget that the biggest factor for crime is poverty, once people aren't desperate for basic material needs, crime drops.
so any crime remediation that focuses mostly on policing is bound to only enforce a class division and is inherently regressive.
policing needs to be done with the utmost accountability to the people. the US system of cops are just a gang that will execute anyone they feel like and suffer no consequences it's hardly what i would call policing in any real sense of the word.
we should be like China, absolutely no crime is tolerated, and addictive drugs, excluding marijuana, should be banned.
If the revolution doesnt come with ending the drug war, what was the point?
This is a good example where context matters. China's policy comes in part out of the Century of Humiliation and manipulation through Opium. In the US, the "war on drugs" was used in part to target black revolutionaries, along with mass incarcerating minorities in general. So any new state in the Turtle Island region that said "we're going to be socialist but still be repressive about drugs" would be justifiably concerning.
That said, I don't know how all China handles it in the particulars, but I believe there has been at least one country in the world where they tried decriminalizing drugs (not to be confused with legalizing the sale of) and creating programs to help people rehabilitate, and that seems like a sensible path forward for a place with history like the US.
but I believe there has been at least one country in the world where they tried decriminalizing drugs
Portugal
It is either:
Pornography should be illegal
or the Axis of Resistance should be supported.
Ngl I'm not sure so I'll name a few.
1.Im very pro-natalist. I think, under well and stable circumstances (so not china during the one china policy) people should be encouraged to have children and preferably 2 or more. Obviously there should be provisions for this to make sure it doesn't turn criminal or get out of hand, but I think having a large and fresh young generation is very good for preventing lapses into unproductivity and conservativism. (However, abortion and such shouldn't be criminalized, Obviously)
2.I kinda like Theodore Roosevelt, at least on a personal level. I know I know imperialist warmonger, you don't have to remind me. But as a physically deficient near sighted kid, he really inspired me to both be more active and more curious about the world. It was kinda a never meet your heros thing, but I still have a soft spot for him
3.Up to a reasonable point, you should obey authority with little question (in day to day activity). Obviously it shouldn't be unquestionable or unqualified (not even Confusious thought that authority should be completely unquestioned), but I always feel like getting person x the y they ask for without question makes things a lot smoother than constantly butting in, trying to wield authority ypu don't have. I'm also a much larger fan of consistency rather than pure benefit (i.e, if one mathematics professor has a different system for notation than the rest of the field, even if that notation is better I woukd rather just be taught the consistent notation). [Side note:this makes me hate capitalism even more. Like how are you so bad that the person who bows so easily doesn't even believe in you?]
trans ppl should form an ethnostate in great britain and expel, enslave, and/or exterminate the cis population. all the property of the cis inhabitants should be confiscated without exception and distributed among the worthy members of the Party as well as soldiers who have been accorded honours for bravery
I thought this was the thread for right wing views???