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Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[-] Haus@kbin.social 216 points 1 year ago

It worked so well when they did the same thing for themselves and Ireland.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 145 points 1 year ago

Also that whole India/Pakistan thing. And I seem to remember some stuff happening in Africa.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 88 points 1 year ago

The secret ingredient is running the fuck away before either of them notice.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

And the Soviets did the same with Armenia and Azerbaijan.

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[-] dreadgoat@kbin.social 66 points 1 year ago

It always works out fine for them. I don't know why anybody says imperialism or colonialism are bad or destructive, seems to me that Britain and France and Spain and Portugal and the Dutch are all doing fine. Really weird how maps of their empires seem to overlap a lot with parts of the world that currently or recently experienced a lot of, idk let's call it "troubles?" They must be dumb or smth

[-] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

Well, since those former colonies can't quite work it out on their own, maybe they should just be brought back into their respective empires again? 🤔

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They even had a nice little name for it, The ~~Troubles~~ Fun Times!

“Spicy diplomacy”

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[-] erranto@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago

Britain has planted the seeds of hatred and bloodshed in the middle east and is now acting as if it has no responsibility towards resolving the conflict.

It is hard to watch the British media coverage of this war acting all outraged and surprised by the violence while being proud of their historical imperial inheritance .

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Britain is laughably impotent today.

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[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

Britain and France are responsible for such an enormous fuck up in Asia, Africa and the middle east, past and present, it's probably impossible to put it in numbers. The US gets bashed a lot (deservedly), but I think those two were planting something way more devastating for generations to come

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

Don't forget Belgium and the Dutch.

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[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That's been happening for the last 5,000 years in that region though, since the Canaanites.

It's not like the Palestinians were the first there.

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[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 72 points 1 year ago

Someone's parents never taught them to share.

Obligatory fuck religion.

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[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 55 points 1 year ago

Also Britain: Oh good, the UN voted in favor of splitting up the land except the entire Arab League voting against the plan? Ok, sounds good, bye guys, have fun!

[-] Neato@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

It's like an HOA: The council is deciding how to divide up your backyard between your neighbors. The lawn owner is the only dissenting vote and then the neighborhood wonders why they are being so hostile.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Except in this case it costs you not just your backyard but basically your entire life.

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[-] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

I do hope the Israel and Palestine Wikipedia pages are doing ok.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Looks like there's a war

[-] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

FINE YOU WEIRDO ZEALOTS:

I do hope the Palestine and Israel Wikipedia pages are doing ok.

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[-] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

It's working as intended, the whole Ottoman Empire was split to create manufactured internal conflict.

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[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Alternate caption: "Zionists smuggling in settlers before the British mandate ended to have enough votes to create a State of Israel as a safe haven for Holocaust refugees, then getting populated mostly by Jews fleeing Arab countries out of fear of retaliation for having created the State of Israel a day early and having pushed most Palestinians out by force"

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

You realize that most Israelis came from Europe after WW2?

or do you think Liebermann, Herzog, Weitzmann, Goldberg, Weinstein etc. are Arabic names?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis 33 % are ethnic Europeans as opposed to 12% from asia and 15% from Africa

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Interesting info and I'm not arguing against your point, but that source doesn't address their point at all. The cited source covers recent demographics. The previous user is referring to events that occurred in 1947ish. The time periods are not close enough to be relevant to each other, especially considering the massive changes that occurred throughout that period in the area.

That's kind of like if someone said that the Caribbean was entirely populated by natives when the Europeans showed up in 1492, and someone responded with demographics from the 1570s after the Spanish had established settlements in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Trinidad, and conquered the Aztecs to dismiss the initial point. The demographics are going to be vastly different. It kind of sheds doubt onto your rebuttal since there seems to be a logical disconnect.

Does anyone have any sources on the demographics right before the British invited Jewish people to move to the Levant?

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[-] Hedup@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago
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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

~~Borders are~~ violence.

Religion is violence

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago
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[-] ytg@feddit.ch 16 points 1 year ago

This war really makes you hate Britain (and possibly France) for causing unrest in the first place

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah it was a land of peace with no unrest until the British came.

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[-] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Palestinians also contain Christians. Its just the modern term for gentiles in Israel now.

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