This is going to fuck over the US so hard. International students are so damn important. Like I mentioned before, they do so much for research and importing highly educated people, and so many posh people come in to study and pay heaps. This is just the US government shooting themselves in the foot.
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PHDs are abandoning the USA already for europe and canada, and other western countries. its already beginning. it was already teetering on the brink before his anti-science directives.
I'm looking for a PhD program to enroll in, and I was already iffy about even considering US universities. Now? No way.
i wonder if you can apply overseas, a european phd program?
Most of them you can, as far as I know. You will have to time your application with the immigration procedure (which can take months depending on the country), but it's definitely doable.
seems tricky, but if you're on your way to get a phd anyways, it shouldnt be a problem.
I already studied abroad for my masters, so I'm familiar with the process for grad school abroad. It's a bit of a pain, but doable.
if you got the requirements to get into a program, my cc and state kinda screwed me with thier ivy league level courses at the community level, so many people were in dead ends in cc for many years because of that. they literally said we have to maintain these courses at a certain level, (somehow i dont believe thier bullshit, why because the state school i transferred to had much easier classes that had no issues with transferring or grad studies requirements. it was kinda sad actually hearing people getting academically dismissed and trying to get back on campus, causing an incident.
the usa has a problem with its pipeline from BS-to-Phd EVEN BEFORE trump2.0, basically its pretty hard to set foot without significant exp upon graduation anyways, theres that problem, something university are reluctant to talk about, if they had labs in the schools, why arnt they telling students? then when i contact the PIs looking for lab work, i found a pattern, they dont want students to suddenly flood them with requests for volunteering, so they try get you out of thier office as soon as possible by telling you some inaccurate advice.
real shit. after I finished my MSc here, two years before COVID, I told myself I would only pursue a PhD if it was outside the US as part of a plan to lifeboat out of this shit show. most colleagues acted like I was a crank.
I wish I had been wrong. the academy in the US is cooked and there seems to be zero recognition that the current situation is structural. they are all just orienting to dutifully ride it out and recover once the orange man is gone.
there is no limit to how much or how many our so-called public intellectuals will sacrifice and slaughter to hang onto some meaningless, symbolic scraps of their own little fiefs. or how many brazen opportunists will rise to the moment, protect bullies and gut infrastructure to secure a sinecure.
the collapse of the US academy is only going to accelerate with each passing day.
to say nothing of the ideological reproduction they represent
Crayk said he’s learned through court filings that the government is using AI technology to locate any criminal activity amongst student visa holders and revoke their visas. He said this is being done without human cross-references.
I cannot keep 
ing
They're actually just dumb. These people think AI is the Oracle of Delphi.
Didn't you know that an SQL query is considered AI now?
Crayk said he only has two speeding tickets on his record, as well as a catch and release violation from a fishing trip in 2019, which was dismissed with prejudice in court.
Dudes rock.
damn, I wanna know more about the catch and release violation that was dismissed "with prejudice". the citing officer has to really fuck the dog to get that ruling from a judge.
also, like everyone else says: we are fucked.