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The genocide is still ongoing and many things are still developing in Palestine, but we are removing the limitation on only posting things related to the operation Flood of Al-Aqsa to this thread, you can now freely post over Lemmygrad again.

Please don't stop talking about Palestine.


Due to popular demand, please keep all posts about the operation to this megathread, sitewide.

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[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

REMEMBER: the Occupier is unpopular the world over. People by and large stand with Palestine, even in the imperial core. The reason they are trying to outlaw protests for Palestine and supporting Palestine is because the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class, and governments want to make their people think that support for Palestine is lower than it really is.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I managed to go to a protest. It was kind of an accident. I suspected something might be planned and went to the time, on the day, and to the place that protests usually happen. Maybe 200+ people there. Half dressed in Palestine flags. Speeches. Poetry. Songs. Messages passed from relatives in Palestine to share with us.

I've been tearing up reading about it all this week. But in person? It was more uplifting than sad. Seeing so many people willing to spend their weekend doing this.

I completely agree, Crit. There's a good reason they don't want us to go outside and connect with others, to see that we stand on the side of humanity and that history will prove us right yet again.

The interesting thing was that the police were clearly supportive. I was a bit surprised to see them nodding along with the talks. They didn't join in the songs and the chanting. But from conversations I overheard, they were supportive. I joined a bit late so stood to one side and I also heard 'ordinary' passers by – you know, people who aren't engaged enough with politics to join a protest – walking past and talking about how bad things were for Palestinians. Seemed like almost everyone walking past was appalled at Israel.

The public stands with Palestine and they know they're being duped by the press. It lifted my mood significantly because all week I'd been given the impression from the silence of colleagues, my institution, my union, and the noise from the media that I was rather alone. Not so.

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 1 year ago

Israel dropped 6000 bombs in the last few days. That's as much as the US did on Afghanistan IN A YEAR. Afghanistan is 1800x bigger than Gaza.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just went to the local Vigil for Palestine but apparently the org canceled it just before the start, because the city didn't want to give a permit. Still like 150 people showed up to lay flowers and burn candles. Police being the fascist fucks they are started intimidating people mourning a massacre.

Fucking fascists

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Same police that has been trained in Israel btw 🤔

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[–] ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 1 year ago

To no surprise, now that there is a new major human rights catastrophy in the middle east, europeans are more worried about refugees entering their countries than the horrors inflicted on these people.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A Dutch channel has investigated the claim of Hamas calling for a 'Day of Terror'. They contacted a Dutch newspaper, who said they got the info from a Jewish org, who said they got it from Reuters, who based it on a video of a former Hamas commander who called for 'days of protests around the world, to show the anger on their city squares'.

So, they did NOT call for terror, but for protests.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Belgian Union has decided to boycot the handling of cargo in the (air)ports that contains weapons deliveries to Israel

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Our party leader Raoul Hedenbouw went on French Belgian tv to say Israel is a terrorist state and a genocidal apartheidsregime and the hosts were absolutely fuming lmao. 'ISRAEL THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST YOU CANT COMPARE THEM TO HAMAS REEEEE'

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago

Activist Ahed Tamimi has been arrested by Israel last night. She has close ties with our party.

Free Ahed and Free Palestina ✊🏻🇵🇸

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

IDF tells 1.1 million Palestinians to move away from Northern Gaza.

This is impossible, of course, and I suspect they only say this to pat themselves in the back when they attack and kill tens or maybe hundreds of thousands civilians.

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[–] Hagels_Bagels@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Someone from the UNRWA is on BBC News right now saying that UN hospitals will cease operations tomorrow if they don't get more fuel, and the reason for this decision is humanitarianism. They need to prioritise rations of fuel to power the water desalination plant and remaining bakeries, or else the people of Gaza won't be able to drink water or eat bread. The UN has been able to provide bags of wheat flour through the Rafah crossing, but bakeries need water from the desalination plant to bake it into bread.

Already there is footage of injured people being rushed into hospitals in the darkness, other than from light from phone torches.

"Can you imagine what it is going to be like on the ground if you have to halt your operations and if there is a ground offensive?"

"It is going to be hell on Earth."

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago

Reports are coming out about Israel failing their ground offensive of yesterday as they got ambushed by resistance groups.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My father in law visited today and I dreaded the Palestine conversation. I must say he surprised me, being pretty Pro Palestine. But my gf surprised me even more in convincing him, suddenly quoting UN agreements on armed resistance, bringing materialism into the conversation, and talking about not dropping ideals to conform to the majority. I was like YAS QUEEEN GO and her father was even more surprised it seemed.

I just hope the rage of the general public reaches explosion point soon.

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[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I had maybe a ten minute conversation with a Palestinian customer the other day about the operation and Israel's response. It was rather enlightening.

He spoke of Ishmael, he spoke of the Arabs and Jews as being brothers. I mentioned 1948. We talked of most Palestinians welcoming many Jewish settlers -- viewed at that time as refugees, even -- with open arms, only for those accepting natives to be slaughtered soon thereafter.

We pondered together whether razing a hospital and destroying a mosque were adequate responses to children throwing stones at tanks.

He seemed very relieved to talk to anyone with a modicum of understanding. He said "you are a very smart guy" as he left. It was a strange but welcome experience. If I prayed, I would pray for his family in Palestine. I know we have some religious comrades, here, and I would implore you to include them in your prayers, if you so wish.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know they are not a leftists news outlet to say the least, but I have to give huge props to Al-Jazeera for their covering of the Gaza situation, often countering Western media with great detail.

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[–] yang_wenli@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago

Jesus Zionist Twitter is fucking depressing man. 1 for 1 Nazi rhetoric, some of the most vile shit, and no consequences for them.

Feels bad man.

[–] FlightSimEnjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A group of anti-zionist jews in the USA invaded the Capitol building today and sat down on the lobby with banners calling for a ceasefire in the conflict. They were arrested.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Netanyahu:

“We have two forces – one is an axis of evil run by Iran and supported by Hezbollah, Hamas and others that want to bring back the Middle East to the Middle Ages … to the age of war and slavery.

“The other forces [are those] of progress and humanity who want to push for a world of peace and prosperity.”

The quiet part out loud

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[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

The zionists funneled the residents of Gaza at the Egyptian border, telling them that's where they were allowed to escape.

Then they bombed it.

The world is literally watching a holocaust happen. Not just reading about it like in the 40s. But watching it. And liberals are either ignoring it or standing with the ones perpetrating it.

Not a single person who stands with Israel should be allowed to forget what they supported.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not just reading about it like in the 40s. But watching it. And liberals are either ignoring it or standing with the ones perpetrating it.

They did the same exact thing almost a century ago. It was the Red Army who brought the Holocaust to an end, not the West.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel just bombed ambulances and justified it by saying Hamas was in it.

I'm not joking.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago (7 children)

One of our party's officials got into a rage in Parliament today because of the government's inaction against Israel and they cut off his mic

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[–] Hagels_Bagels@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Hamas just offered to release 2 hostages "for compelling humanitarian reasons and without compensation." One of those two is aged 85 years old, according to a screenshot.

Israel said no.

https://twitter.com/richimedhurst/status/1715815339961749676

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[–] Leninismydad@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The hospital bombing may have been the match to light the fuse, it's looking rough, in Amman they are attacking the Israelie embassy, Israel has urged its people to evacuate Turkiye, firefights erupting in Jerusalem, calls for the overthrow over Abbas in the West Bank, Israel just couldn't resist bombing a hospital. Potentially over a thousand wounded and injuries dead in one strike. Fucked up.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Biden first: 'I totally saw images of beheaded babies!'

White House statement now: 'Biden did not ever see those images and they can't be verified'

Libs and others, if you are reading this, please support the right side of history. You are propagandized to hell the same way people were with Iraq, Vietnam, Cuba etc.

[–] Hagels_Bagels@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 11 months ago (8 children)

So more of the usual Zionist propaganda crap got released today, just like any other day since the 7th of October. How will I explain this? Today there has been released a pre-recorded video of a sketch (I don't know what else to call it) of an actress posing as a 7 Oct Hamas rape victim reporting their rape to a fictitious organisation called "Police Global." So basically the video is orchestrated to create a strawman narrative of how the international community supposedly disregards and ignores rape victims of Hamas militants. In this video, the actress theatrically cries throughout and also claims that al-Qassam militants filmed themselves committing real/fictitious/theatrical rape, and the victim turns their screen to show Police Global the rape film they acquired from Hamas, of themselves being raped by Hamas, which is then dismissed by two other actresses, one of which represents Police Global, another of which is a portrayal of a Hamas supporting western feminist who works for Police Global in a pink shirt. The woman in the pink shirt says that rape is fine against Israelis or something, to the crying depicted rape victim. There's now a new hashtag being circulated by Zionists alongside this new digital media, #rapeisnotresistance.

The video was originally uploaded to Instagram (with 2.1 million views and growing), then shared on Twitter/X with at least 1 million views in one tweet.

Typing an accurate description of this few-minute-long video and its reach makes me feel like I'm going insane. Yet someone employed by an official organisation in Israel with substantial state-backed funding mentally conceived of this concept, spoke with their colleagues about it, got the idea approved, a team wrote a script, made props, and communicated with actresses to act out a staged rape report video.

If I recall correctly, the festival mass rape story was retracted?

Anyways, I did a reverse image search of the actress who played the Oct 7 rape victim and found that she works for an organisation called "The Hive" (הכוורת). They have a YouTube channel where they talk about their work as "Social Entrepreneurs", funded by two large organisations, 'Joint Israel', and 'National Insurance Funds'. There are literally animations in their videos where paper money falls from the top to the bottom of the screen, advertising that their "social entrepreneurship" is lucrative. What I'm getting at is that they're obviously a propaganda company that markets propaganda. Millions of people are getting their heartstrings pulled at in order to support an ongoing genocide against one of the most oppressed peoples in the world. It has been well over a month and I still haven't seen any proof of any sexual abuse during the Al-Aqsa Flood operation, nor have I seen any trusted source outside of Israel verify footage of sexual abuse that is adamantly proclaimed to be easily accessible by Zionists.

Link to the below image.

The below image is a direct screenshot from one of the YouTube videos published by The Hive. The organisation is clearly advertising this actress's ability to fake cry.

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[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

"Israel" can't seem to decide whether they want a ground invasion or not, so expect conflicting reports until there is video confirmation of their criminals moving into Gaza.

On the one hand, they realize this is the only thing they can do to actually "finish" Gaza once and for all. Otherwise it's still just bombing. Gaza will rebuild. On the other hand, they also know from the two times they went into Gaza that it's a very, very bad idea. Absolutely terrible idea.

But what else can the occupation government do, when its ratings are at an all-time low? Not only did they fail to prevent the Flood, the bombing campaign will have to either stop or evolve.

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[–] ihaveibs@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Israel propaganda is flying like crazy right now, I don't think anything from Ukraine even came close to this. They are all over the internet regurgitating their bullshit and saying it's now "100% confirmed" that the IDF didn't do it and that it was Hamas. And obviously any dissent is being suppressed. Oh yes and now the death count must be inflated because it wouldn't make any sense at for a hospital to house hundreds of incredibly frail and vulnerable people!

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Some soldiers of the IDF entered Gaza but they got slapped by Hamas and resistance and ran away lmao

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[–] ProbablyKaffe@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago

The contradictions of the Zionist occupation are collapsing under their own weight, 90% of settlers said they would not return to the captured settlements even if the war ended. Dual passport Zionists will just go home and millions more will ask for the passports of their parents' and grandparents' home countries. The myth of Zionism is that they can live peacefully in Zion, but this will never be the case.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Israel has declared that Gaza will become their permeant "security responsibility" for an "indefinite period of time". This will include the permeant annexation of Gaza into Israel, the permeant stationing of IDF troops in Gaza, and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by forcing them to move to Egypt or the West Bank as Gaza is rightful Jewish territory.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna123954

All calls for a ceasefire have been rejected, Netanyahu stand by the position that they will see this through to the end, and will not pause to allow civilians to escape, or to allow humanitarian relief to enter Gaza.

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[–] PostingInternational@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I listened to Breakthrough News piece and they claimed that most of the names on that 1.400 killed Israelis list, are military. That the claims of beheaded babies or rapes were never backed by any evidence.

However, libs are yelling at me Hamas literally taped themselves killing and raping civilians.

Any resources or debunks available online? Are these tapes fabrication? I know at least the “beheaded babies” story was complete BS. Thanks.

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[–] Comrade_Joshu@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Non-Zionist search engines?

I started noticing it’s increasingly difficult to find anti-Zionist resources using any search engine, Bing, Duckduck, Google, Qwant, Freespoke, etc.

My key search term was “sea to river,” which is the Zionist antithesis of “River to the sea.” Even with quotes, mainstream search engines results would either be empty or flooded with River-to-sea results. It wasn’t like that a few days ago. Pretty clear there’s a concerted effort effort to control the narrative by making it impossible to know the real history and intentions of Zionism.

I found Yandex to be fairly unbiased and was able to return ample results.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This entire conflict just shows again how much the west is projecting when it comes to accusations of atrocities. If you'd believe them then the Russians are all Hitler reborn based on little to no evidence. Meanwhile I have been bombarded with images of dead babies, mass murders and what not in the past month. But then it's suddenly a 'complex issue'

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago

So the UN ambassador of Israel just pinned a Jewish Star on himself saying they will never let themselves get attacked again like in WW2, while his country is actively committing genocide right now.

[–] nour@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From Aldanmarki on Twitter (https://nitter.net/Aldanmarki/status/1712865725054955670):

Hamas issued a statement right after Israel told Gazans to evacuate south, saying it's nothing but a strategy of Israeli [psychological] warfare.

Guess what: The Palestinians who fled south were deliberately targeted in airstrikes.

Hamas was right.

Quoting this statement from a Palestinian journalist: https://nitter.net/m7mdkurd/status/1712863526665003266

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Houthis saying they will not hesitate to target Israeli ships in the Red Sea if agression continues

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[–] ProbablyKaffe@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Israel is likely responsible for most of the Israeli deaths since the 7th: https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/a-growing-number-of-reports-indicate-israeli-forces-responsible-for-israeli-civilian-and-military-deaths-following-october-7-attack/

Most recently, Nir Hasson returned to Be’eri and interviewed a local resident named Tuval, who was lucky to be away from the kibbutz at the time of the attack but whose partner was killed. In Hasson’s October 20 Haaretz article, he reports:

“His voice trembles when his partner, who was besieged in her home shelter at the time, comes to mind. According to him, only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions — including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages — did the IDF complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”

This quote is important for several reasons; one is because it adds to the understood timeline of events. This testimony would seem to indicate that many Israeli captives were still alive on Monday, October 9, a full two days after the events of Saturday, October 7. While it might be understandable if captives had been killed in the hectic crossfire of an initial Israeli response to the attack on the 7th, this account would seem to indicate that the decision to assault the kibbutz and everyone inside was made as a clear military calculation.

It is clear Palestinian militants were hiding in these buildings with their Israeli captives as Israeli soldiers were blasting their way in with massive tank shells in close quarters. It deserves to be investigated who caused most of the death and destruction that took place. This is especially important as these deaths are now being used to justify the destruction of Gaza and the killing of thousands of civilians there.

[–] Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The city of Oakland just passed a resolution to call for a ceasefire :). The city council members had attempted to include an amendment that would've condemned Hamas, but comrades and local citizens had quite a bit to say about that during a speak in session. Very impassioned and kind people, with a few nasty zionists in between.

Some zionist from the ADL claimed that someone behind her said "Heil Hitler" (referring to the pro-palestinian people ofc), and newsflash, no one said that at all 😂. At one point, a member went on about the sacrifice of Isaac and Ishmael when it came time to vote on the resolution??????

[–] Hagels_Bagels@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Israel has destroyed Gaza's communication infrastructure, resulting in a blackout. The ground invasion may be about to start.

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[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

I've seen multiple Palestinian journo's on Instagram post about the Iranian Foreign Minister telling Israel to halt its attacks before 'it's too late'.

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

One thing about being an anime fan is that you're always reminded that most of your peers don't consider Japanese people to be thinking, breathing humans unless they regurgitate right wing talking points.

There have been some Pro-Palestine demonstrations in Japan and the usual suspects are convinced that it's nothing but foreign agents and "globalists" stirring up trouble in White people Wakanda. https://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/15050476

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[–] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago

PFLP Deputy Secretary-General Jamil Mezher: —

Our people are engaged in the heroic epic of Al-Aqsa Flood, initiated by a handful of brave resistance fighters, who within hours, through a surprise operation, managed to inflict a humiliating defeat on the enemy. This operation destroyed the enemy's security and defense strategies and dealt them a humiliating military and security defeat.

The enemy is committed a heinous massacre in the Al-Maamadani hospital in Gaza City, killing hundreds of martyrs, including children, women, and elders. This is an attempt by this enemy to subdue our people, force them into submission, and drive them away under the bombardment and destruction.

We tell this criminal enemy: No matter how many bloody massacres you commit, our people will not leave but will remain steadfast and firm on their land, regardless of the sacrifices made.

These crimes cannot overshadow the enemy's defeat, and the disgrace that befell its soldiers and security system.

In the face of this zionist madness and crime, it is imperative to urgently intervene to save our people who are facing a war of extermination and ethnic cleansing. In response to this heinous massacre, we affirm the following:

We call upon the masses of our people in the West Bank, Al-Quds, and the 1948 territories to rise up in an intifada against the occupation and settler hordes.

We call on Arab leaders to take a united stand to boycott the US administration, expel its military bases, and close its embassies in the region.

Ambassadors of the enemy state should be expelled, and Arab ambassadors should be withdrawn from the zionist entity.

We urge the Arab masses to mobilize en masse to the squares and fields and besiege the US and zionist embassies in their countries.

We call on the free forces and those in solidarity with the Palestinian people around the world to escalate their struggle and resistance against the zionist enemy, the US administration, and the old and new colonial powers in Europe that are partners in this aggression against our people.

Our people, our noble and heroic nation: Despite the bombardment, destruction, and genocidal war waged by the enemy against our people, and despite the American and Western complicity, our people and our resistance are in good shape, performing heroically, and they will not surrender or raise the white flag.

Our people's resistance will pave the way for the decisive and inevitable victory over this criminal and defeated zionist entity. The battle continues, and victory is undoubtedly on the side of the Palestinian people and their valiant resistance.

Telegram, Resistance News Network

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago

The Iraqi Hezbollah brigades have officially announced their participation in the "Al-Aqsa Flood" operation. The military representative of the Iraqi Hezbollah brigades , Jafar Al Husseini, said that "the Americans are key accomplices in the deaths of the residents of the Gaza Strip and therefore they (the Americans) must bear responsibility for the consequences." He emphasized that the Iraqi Hezbollah brigades practically started the fight from today, with attacks on American bases. Information appeared on Telegram channels that Hezbollah drones attacked two American military bases in Syria at the same time: The al-Tanf base in the province of Homs and the facility at the Conoco field in Deir ez-Zor were hit.

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1714944029878554722

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My father in law is visiting this weekend and he's kind of a know it all socdem. I don't know what his stance in this all is and I'm not really looking forward to the discussion we'll probably have. Maybe it's not too bad but I kinda expect him to go 'but Hamas are terrorists though'. I had a big argument with him when Ukraine started so I'm afraid it may turn into a big argument yet again. Or that his endless pacifism affects my partner who, for the first time, is starting to see through the propaganda with this kind of things.

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[–] BrownMinusBlue@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago

First they siege them further, they will starve them further and bomb them further untill defeat is imminent, then and only then when the rebellion is at its weakest, when the people who were able to fight are no longer able to stand from hunger, thirst and sickness,is when the mighty and courages IDF will set foot in Gaza.

Fucking colonial criminals

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