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[–] benoit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As a naive 20 y/o I "moved" to China and lived there for two years.

It really didn't feel like communism at all...

It really didn’t feel like communism at all…

makes sense because no country in existence has achieved communism

[–] bastion@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All it takes is one person to break trust, and lie about it. "You must do this for the motherland/community/people" etc.

It can be a good thing if the imperative originates from an honest person, but it can be very bad if it originates from a dishonest one or from a collective misunderstanding.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have spent some time in a couple of them, and a possible future career option is actually a transfer to China. It is part of the reason I took the job I have now. I have been studying chinese specifically in case that pans out.

I am sure there would be considerable adjustments, I have lived most of my life in Japan at this point, but I would definitely welcome the opportunity.

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May I pm you and talk shop with moving to China?

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Of course, feel free

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why that one particularly?

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bc it's easier to learn Spanish than Mandarin

[–] comrade_coyotl@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cuban Spanish is its own beast, I think it’s like speaking California-American English to a person with a thick Scottish accent, you kinda have to slow down a bit until you get used to it. Source: am a Mexican native Spanish speaker who’s traveled to Cuba.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

California-American English

I don't know what that sounds like bc I am from Denmark

[–] comrade_coyotl@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, word. It's what most US-ians in movies sound like because of hollywood and therefore it's mostly what folks consider "American English". It's not the default though, because there's also western/texas/deep south english which is your typical cowboy to hillbilly range of accents seen in wild west movies, or when coastal libs do that annoying thing here equating all southerners to inbred reactionaries. The Midwestern accent is a bit on the stereotypical Canadian side, at least to me, and the New York/Boston/New England accent is also sharply distinct. AAVE (African American Vernacular) can also differ among regions and is different from how non-Black US-ians talk in many cases.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The deep south Amerikkkan accent reminds me of Southern Jutlandic Danish

[–] comrade_coyotl@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Haha, that's neat!

I feel kinda guilty sometimes when I spell Amerikkka wrong, forgive me I'm still kinda new here lol! Good luck learning Spanish, it's certainly closer to Danish or English than Mandarin is :)

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Good luck learning Spanish

I'm not learning Spanish, but thx anyway

[–] Laguna700@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Our mission as Marxism-Leninist is to do the revolution in ours countries. Go to live to a socialist country is a bad option to do that.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our mission as Marxists-Leninists is to aid the worldwide expansion of communism and to defend the interests of the working class. There's nothing written forbidding you from crossing borders.

[–] Laguna700@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I move to one socialist state I cannot fight for my class. Your vission is like, I go to a site that have my ideologic and this is all.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's absurd and nonsensical, unless you find that "fighting for your class" is a synonym with "directly fighting against the bourgeoisie that oppresses you"... In which case it's only absurd. The fight for your class does not end the moment you've defeated your own national bourgeoisie.

Workers who participate in the growth and improvement of the quality of life in socialist states do fight for the working class. Otherwise we could claim that workers in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba and so on did not contribute for the wellbeing of the proletariat, which is obviously wrong. Fighting for your class does not necessarily have to involve picking up a banner nor a rifle there where the bourgeoisie rules.

[–] Laguna700@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im agree with you. But in too many case people go to live to socialist state and didnt fight any more. Obviously all the workes o Soviet Union is an example for all the working class in the word. We have to take that example and continuos her example in our territory for the liberation of the all class.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Even then, being somewhere else does not mean you cannot fight for the cause of the proletariat back in your home country. Lenin spent a while living in Switzerland and Finland, all while still working on what would finally amount to the October Revolution.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Three problems:

  1. Language barrier for 4/5 of them
  2. One I speak the language of, but the climate is unbearable to me.
  3. As developing countries that AES states are, those that have the same profession as me have overall worse living standards than in my part of the world.

I am going to move anyway, but not to a socialist country (for now).

[–] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Scandinavia, most likely Sweden.

Edit: lmao at the downvote

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Part of me still wants to stay and fight in the U.S., but more and more I believe that its the equivalent of trying to stop a tsunami with a riot shield. And I feel incredibly guilty for feeling this way, but I am hoping/planning to permanently move to China one day.

Every single day in the U.S. is like gambling with your life. I don't want to suffer and die in this fascist shithole, and I know that I can still help people no matter where I go. But I feel that I owe it to my family and my SO to get us to a better and safer place.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

incredibly guilty for feeling this way

If it makes you slightly less guilty, the US is actively suppressing any opposition (see the Black Panther Party).

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I know that, but I always believe in standing up and fighting.