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Democratic U.S Rep. Shri Thanedar of Michigan is calling for the impeachment of Trump over the case of the man who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador.

Thanedar's office said in a release Friday that the Trump administration's "blatant disregard" for a U.S. Supreme Court ruling requiring they facilitate the return of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia is a "direct defiance of the U.S. Constitution."

"I've seen enough," Thanedar said in a social media post on Thursday. "Trump is not abiding by a Supreme Court ruling. I fully support impeaching him. Now."

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[–] aramova@infosec.pub 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard...

It's just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It's like the people who thought China paid the tariffs...

The house is almost tied. That's who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents...

218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.

Let's see, take New York for example.

26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.

5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.

People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn't matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.

Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.

Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.

District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.

Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state... Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.

So, if you think that your vote for president doesn't matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you're a fucking moron who can't grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.

And don't get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.

Every fucking vote counts.

And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we'll keep getting the shit we deserve.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with your conclusion but in this case it's actually irrelevant. A simple majority in the house doesn't mean shit for following through with an impeachment.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.

Democrats would need ~18 seats.

First, that won't happen in 2026.

Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.

Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.

How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we're living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers...

Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.

  • Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
    • Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
      • North Carolina (Budd-R)
      • Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
    • Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
      • Iowa (Ernst-R)
      • Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
      • Kentucky (McConnell-R's seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
      • Kansas (Marshall-R)
      • South Carolina (Graham-R)
    • Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
      • Texas (Cornyn-R)
      • Mississippi (Wicker-R)
      • Alabama (Tuberville-R)
      • West Virginia (Capito-R)
      • Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
      • Wyoming (Lummis-R)
      • Idaho (Risch-R)
      • Arkansas (Cotton-R)
      • Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
      • South Dakota (Rounds-R)
      • Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
  • Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
    • Highly Competitive Targets:
      • Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
      • Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
    • Stretch Targets:
      • Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
      • New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
    • Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
      • Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
      • Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
      • North Carolina (Tillis-R)
      • Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
      • Texas (Cruz-R)
      • Kentucky (Paul-R)
      • And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).

It's going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.

The amount that's being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities...

We're on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.

No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.

Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 131 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yes. I would say this falls in the "high crime or misdemeanor" category.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 110 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not only that, it's entirely unprofessional for official statement to be this childish fuckery. In my entire lifetime, I've not seen anything more unprofessional than this to be jeeted out in the world by official government account. Never.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago

This admin is a joke and an embarrassment. It would be hilarious if it weren't so terrifying.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I keep wondering why should I or anyone else have to learn to behave professionally when you can behave like Trump and be given one of the most important jobs in the world

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

if we want to retain our norms, then we need to establish a norm that assures that such callousness and cruelty is sure to trigger being drug into the streets

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Oh the other hand, we’ve seen what happens when regimes get “professional” about sending undesirables to death camps.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even the onion wouldn't dare to joke about such hatred and cruelty. Absolutely sickening administration

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's because you have to have a sense of humour to joke.

This administration isn't joking. They just have a high enough ladder to have everyone see how blatantly racist and disgusting they are

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

What the actual fuck

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

This is insane

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 95 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Impeach the entire admin before the people get ahold of them.

For their own protection.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Before we start buying kits that assemble together: a large blade, two tall posts, some rope, and a basket. Of course the actual apparatus will need more support beams and other accessories but you get the idea.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a lot of work when a bullet will do.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, but I can’t help but picture the impact politicians and billionaires would feel seeing their kind being handled like that.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

oh, if you want to establish an effective visual that will serve as a long-lasting reminder to future ambitious sociopaths, film one of these sub-humans getting fed feet first into a chipper shredder and make it mandatory viewing.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Nah, I say let them face the people.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I call for Trump to be sent to prison in El Salvador but I'll settle for him being removed from office

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think we should create arbitrary punishments for him. He is subject to due process and the maximum punishment prescribed by law. Just the same as anyone else in this country.

Charge his ass with Treason and give him the maximum punishment.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's death, and even more unrealistic than an undetermined amount of time in jail.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

...if it was good enough for the rosenbergs, it's good enough for the trumps...

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I agree but until we fully go the way of the French Revolution that's unlikely happen.

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[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd settle for him being deported and ostracized from all countries.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hear Antarctica is warming up, we can send him there.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I vote we send him to an uninhabited island he threw tariffs on. The penguins won't be happy but he's gotta go somewhere.

[–] djsp@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

The penguins will tariff him up.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

They already have enough of a rape problem…

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It'd be very curious if there was literally no country on the planet that permitted him entry. I was about to say Russia, but he's only been useful as a pawn in the US to them.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 45 points 2 days ago

It seems that the Supreme Court agrees (except Alito and Thomas of course).

I mean generally agrees; let's see what follows.

However horrible these past months have been, they certainly havn't been boring.

[–] match@pawb.social 22 points 1 day ago

it's worth doing just to tie the admin up for a bit and send trump golfing for a week

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

Yes, I'm sure the -already- twice impeached TurdNugget will deffo give up everything this time.

Maybe he'll also insist that all the open and shut trials of the treason stuff he pulled last time will be rushed through to court as well!!

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He had been impeached twice already and still got away. Because your representatives all work for him and the oligarchs!

At this point, the only way for Americans to actually rid themselves of oligarchs is to have a revolution.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Shit. Don't tell them the truth.

[–] whodrankarnoldpalmer@startrek.website 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He’s already been impeached. Twice.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 32 points 2 days ago

Third time is the charm

[–] LumpyPancakes@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Is that where the orange colour comes from?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They finally picked something from the pile to impeach him over? Not DOGE, not threatening to invade our neighbors, not the whipsawing of the market thanks to his tariff games, or any of the rest?

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

They need to pick something both the court and some gop will go for. Stripping power from Congress and the judiciary branches would normally seem like a slam dunk but here we are. They have to choose battles they have a chance of winning.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even before the supreme court he has been ignoring law with flimsy "logic" on why he can do it. Ignoring congressional laws and court orders are more than enough reason.

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[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

FINALLY. Where the hell are the other Democrats?

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So let's say....somehow....every Democrat gets on board finally with impeaching the Orange King. Do we really think enough Republicans are going to get on board with this to go through with impeaching and removing him?

Call me cynical, but after the crap that went down with the CR, I'm not seeing it and have zero faith in Congress as a whole to do anything of value to stop this hostile takeover and is/will be violating basic human rights for anyone who isn't a white male.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if that happened, you'd just end up with Vance as president. If you somehow remove both Trump and Vance, you get Mike Johnson. The US has effectively no mechanism to force new elections - in Westminster style parliament, a majority 'no' vote on certain legislation (i.e. budget) immediately triggers dissolution of parliament and an election must happen. A party can also call a vote of no-confidence, which will do the same thing if it passes.

There's also another "oh shit" button that can be pushed for those of us still beholden to the Crown, which is King Charles can mandate the dissolution of government unilaterally, which actually happened once in Australia.

[–] Kellamity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

But the downside is that technically, regardless of what mechanism would trigger the dissolution of parliament, this has to be requested to and accepted by the King, who then sends out Writs of Electors

Of course in practice this is a rubber stamp tradition with no chance of not happening - if Charles went mad and tried to prevent this we would likely still have an election just with a side order of constitutional crisis and a wave of republicanism

But it's still dumb

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Politicians try to stay at the head of the parade. They only go where we force them to go. Are you going to give up already? Cuz that's exactly what the fascists would prefer.

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[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Weren't you going to put him in jail years ago when you still had your precious 'democracy'?

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[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago
[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

In the United States, impeachment is the first of two stages; an official may be impeached by a majority vote of the House, but conviction and removal from office in the Senate requires "the concurrence of two thirds of the members present". Impeachment is analogous to an indictment.^1^

^1^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let's have one that sticks... Involving how he has ignored following anything in the Constitution

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