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Can't run Windows 11? Don't want to? There are surprisingly legal options

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[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 57 points 2 days ago (39 children)

Why even bother at this point? Linux has become so good it's actually easier and more familiar to use than the clusterfuck that is windows 11.

[–] PagPag@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (12 children)

How well does Linux run Solidworks?

Oh right, it doesn’t…at all.

Linux is useful for many things but just doesn’t cut it for the majority of people reliant on single deal breaker items.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're also SOL if you have a couple of decades of music projects in various DAWs (though predominantly Ableton, plus a decent number of Maschine & Reason projects, for me) using all sorts of VSTs from over the years. I keep several versions of some VSTs installed so I can open older projects, and those older versions are never getting patched to fix broken Linux support by the developer, even if a more modern version does get fixed. It's all got to come from wine devs, which frankly probably have more important issues to focus on.

I've tried a few times to get Ableton working with all my plugins and MIDI hardware and it's always been an exercise in madness ultimately resulting in failure and usually a lost weekend. It particularly doesn't like anything with my iLok key involved, last I tried a couple of years ago.

I happily run Linux elsewhere, but my main desktop is going to mainly run Windows for the foreseeable future unless something drastically changes. At least my projects aren't all in Logic!

There's also some software I use for my photography that didn't properly work on Linux when I last tried (e.g. GPU features in PureRAW are the main thing I remember), but I think there're some alternatives there I'd look at if I could get the audio production stuff working perfectly.

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[–] Tea@programming.dev 39 points 2 days ago (7 children)
  • To use Windows only and legacy software.
  • Some laptops don't support Linux due to missing drivers.
  • Some very old people hate change and would want to use windows 10 till the end of times, matter of fact I had seen a full office with about 5 desktops that is still running windows xp. (Spoiler alert:they got a ransomware 2 years ago.)
  • finally, Windows is idiot proof, meaning that it's kind of hard to ruin desktop windows during the normal operations. In comparison, a bad Linux update could fuck your boot loader beyond repair (it happened to me twice in fact, once on openSUSE tumbleweed and the other on Clear Linux).
[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

I have to disagree about the idiot proof. KDE Plasma and Mate Desktop are more idiot proof and easy for newbies than Windows 10-11, yet have more features in their simple control panels.

I've had no bootloader problems in the last 10 years of Debian, Linux Mint, and Ubuntu (15-20 installs, plus another 20-30 if you count VMs.) However, my work computer's bootloader was semi-bricked twice in 2019 (Windows 7).

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Windows is idiot proof, meaning that it's kind of hard to ruin desktop windows during the normal operations.

Are you new? Windows will barf all over itself and all your files doing regular updates. Happened to my wife's computer just recently. She has almost nothing installed on it aside from Steam and Chrome. Windows update turned itself into a hot mess, and it's a known issue. The only option was to do a completely fresh install of Windows.

Idiot proof my ass.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Windows only applications mostly. The ones I use are Fusion 360, Photoshop, Lightroom, and NI Labview. Unfortunately CAD/Graphic design software also often really struggles to run in WINE, especially with updates happening fairly often.

I've thought of a windows VM, but that's just not worth the extra effort of dealing with hardware passthrough to get proper GPU acceleration.

I really like Linux, all my servers and VMs run Debian or Alpine. But it's just a lot of work for desktop use in my experience (yes I know some of you have never had a single thing break), stuff just randomly breaks for no reason, I'll do a system update and just get a black screen from botched GPU drivers, or back when I ran GNOME my extensions would randomly break after an update and never work again, sometimes installing a simple application like steam would nuke my package manager.

As much as people complain about windows and some do have poor experiences, for me it's pretty much set and forget, I installed W11 on my desktop maybe 4 years ago shortly after release and it's just.. there. It works fine, it doesn't break, all my apps, games, and drivers still work after updates.

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 39 points 2 days ago (35 children)

That's a weird way to spell Linux Mint

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https://massgrave.dev/ works just fine with ltsc as well and https://www.pcrf.net/ can always use more money

[–] huzzahunimpressively@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought what the public health sector gonna do if they don't allow W11 in old PCs, and later I remember that in Mexico they use W7 with IE, lol. BTW I think they could use Linux, my mum was a nurse there and she only used OpenOffice and a web browser

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Issue with healthcare IT is they cannot just upgrade willy nilly. They have to make sure that whatever computer they're changing isn't responsible for something big and they have to make sure everyone who uses it can use it. You still have some critical system PCs in hospitals that run DOS and sometimes even older.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so end of LTSC is the year of the Linux desktop?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 days ago

Any day now

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 19 points 2 days ago (9 children)

People keep treating Win10 EoL as if the software is going to catch on fire. Every time they phase out a Windows version people just happily keep it installed indefinitely until they just naturally buy a new PC, at least.

I predict the big replacement for supported Windows 10 will be unsupported Windows 10. I expect that's a pretty safe bet.

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

I predict the big replacement for supported Windows 10 will be unsupported Windows 10. I expect that's a pretty safe bet

Famous last words before getting a keylogger that leads to all your bank accounts being drained due to lack of security patches.

Also, this is pretty much not possible (if not illegal) for business operations since those generally require having a secure OS to work on.

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