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[–] Vordus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Heck, even before you take into account differing xenobiologies, this has precedent on earth; different cultures are often unused to how other cultures smell.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I remember a Chinese friend, in jest mind you, said that white people smell of slightly sour milk.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

oh that's just the daily sour milk skincare routine

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sensitive to smells and perfumes so any culture that uses them often is difficult for me. Hey are there scent suppressants I can buy or is that future tech?

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

There would so be a market for it, although I'd rather have the artificial odor market be killed off instead. Saves a lot of waste as well. (as the air pollution, those smells... yuck)

[–] nezbyte@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew a guy who couldn’t smell anything for weeks after smoking weed. As a maintenance worker for an apartment complex, he kept that up for years.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hey I'm a condo maintenance guy! I swear Snelling garbage and bad smells all day has destroyed my sense of smell. If someone's wearing strong perfume it bothers me, but I can't smell bad smells or notice them

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Covid renders many people unable to smell or taste things.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's possible since I got COVID last year, but I feel like it's been going a while for me

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bappity@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

the EMH says so in voyager

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone has a smell. Everything has a smell.

You're more likely to find smells you're unfamiliar with potent and obvious.

So, yeah, humans stink, most humans usually smell somewhat like the foods they typically eat, big surprise!

So Vulcans probably stink, too, just differently.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wonder if it has to do with how many of us eat meat, Vulcan are vegetarian aren't they?

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I imagine the body odor of meat eaters to strict vegetarians is particularly... noticeable as it's something totally alien to their diet.

[–] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm mostly vegetarian. But the dishes that I tend to eat are heavily spiced. Curry is so good. Also garlic. Hah

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still, the farts of someone who mostly survives on processed meats are something else and can clean out a room.

It wasn't me, I swear!

[–] themz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just like how everyone has an accent. (Especially the people who think they don’t.)

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Yes! Have you met humans?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My pet theory on this is that it's because most vulcans are vegan or vegetarian, and many humans still eat meat and other animal products. The diet thing is confirmed canon, but I can confirm being able to smell... meat smell(?) on people who eat it.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The meat Federation citizens eat isn't really an animal product. In the Orville, it's actually made explicit that killing an animal for food is regarded as tantamount to murder in the Union.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reality is it wouldn't matter if it's synthetically produced meat, it's still going to have the same proteins and chemicals as it would if it came from an animal, which is what people (myself included) can smell on people who have consumed them. Eating garlic makes you smell like garlic, eating dairy makes you smell like dairy, eating meat makes you smell like meat.

I think the implication that we're smelling the concept of sin is very funny though.

[–] Jaggle@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I think the fact that we're made of meat makes us smell like meat

[–] flicker@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just because it's replicated doesn't mean it's not meat, right?

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Cannibals love this one easy trick!”

[–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Computer, one human arm, medium rare"

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

well presumably if there's some specific compound in meat that makes us smell, that could simply not be replicated

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those compounds would be the proteins that make meat taste and feel like meat.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

except we have vegan meats made from various vegetable proteins that are basically equivalent at this point, and they most certainly don't have the same proteins as meat.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you eat meat? The vegan meats like impossible and beyond are not "basically equivalent." They are fine, but easy to distinguish from meat.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

been eating meat my whole life and vegan nuggets are impossible to tell apart, and vegan ground meat is sufficiently close that you wouldn't notice being served it in a sauce instead of real meat.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we're arguing two different points. Chicken nuggets taste like breading, not chicken. And you can throw anything in sauce or chili and it's going to taste like the sauce.

Saying "if you cover meat substitutes in curry sauce or dip them in ketchup you can't taste the difference" is not the same as "meat substitutes taste the same as meat."

[–] flicker@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Impossible Meat was pretty good until twenty minutes later when I discovered my rare blood disorder makes me deathly allergic to the fake heme they use to synthesize blood. Seemed dead on identical to a Whopper, even the second and third and forth time I tasted it (from all the barfing).

I've had maybe two fake beefs that tasted dead on since then, and a bunch of fake chicken. I think since we have come this far in making fake meat, it's conceivable that there's a future tech that can craft a meat that doesn't cause the negatives of meat consumption.

I think it's also safe to presume that in the ultra future tech advanced society of Star Trek, they can remove the bacteria that causes body odor in humans.

I'm throwing in with the person who said that it might be cultural. Like how some people hate when I sweat garlic. And maybe Vulcans were too polite to tell humans about the unpleasantness of our odor since they logically know they shouldn't comment on this aspect of culture.

And also they seem to really get off on feeling superior, so why tell humanity there's something unpleasant about them? Those barbaric humans. I bet it's their illogical obsession with emotion that makes them smell (since certain emotions do in fact cause hormonal changes that make smells). "It's a biological side effect of unchecked emotion."

Of course, if that's the case, I bet they can smell Pon Farr. And you are welcome if you haven't had that idea yet, fanfiction smut people. (This is a joke. Y'all are a million steps ahead of me. You can see in my comment history I only this past week realized how homoerotic Q's obsession with Jean Luc has been all these years.)

[–] flicker@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Wait, is it still homoerotic if Q is a being beyond gender? I have so many questions and zero interest locating the people who can answer them.

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[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They kinda imply they eat real meat in enterprise. When do they phase out animals as food?

Probably aroumd the time replicators became widespread, so, during The Lost Era.

[–] davi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

it's not a theory, it's fact: the smell is rotting flesh (and dairy for most) and animals on earth rely on it to know if something is nearby them.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Dude you literally grew up with a human mother get over yourself

[–] Prking@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Worf mentioned this in TNG

[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I think you have it reversed.

Is that... lilac?

[–] graymess@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I remember reading that some astronauts have reported needing to get used to the smell of Earth again after being in space for a while. Apparently the planet just always smells faintly like shit and we've been ignoring it.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We mostly smell like hair styling products.

[–] thejohnr@universeodon.com 2 points 1 year ago

@ThrowawayPermanente @Confidant6198
Right now I smell a bit like a breakfast burrito.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago