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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 116 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If you describe communism to these morons without ever saying “communism” then they salivate over what you have just described to them

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A system where there is no central authority and everyone has an equal share of both responsibility and power? Somehow I don't think they'd find that particularly enthralling.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

That's anarchism, communism can have a central authority, it's just the resources are distributed equitably.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Thats socialism, which is meant to lead eventually to communism. The end goal is to have no state.

If my understanding is correct, that is.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair 🤓 since it's mostly theoretical, any definition of communism is going to be in flux as it has not achieved a shelf-stable real life application yet.

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[–] ace_of_based@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

yeah, Lenin even stated this was the end-goal.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Anarchism, as a whole concept, doesn't put equality first. It can divide power and resources equally, but it doesn't have to.

With Communism there is a specific emphasis on power (and resources) and responsibility being equally shared amongst the populace.

These concepts often have overlap, they do not exist in vacuums unto themselves.

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

This is exactly what life under communism is like.

This sanctimonious yet ignorant, idiotic pronouncement sounds like another type of thing that this sanctimonious yet ignorant type of idiot would say: bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're still using Robinhood after the shit they pulled years ago you're a goober

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 49 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s alright. This screenshot was from 2021

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

Quite literally* is* the shit that happened years ago

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Communism would be that everyone only owns one share of the stock and you can't sell or trade in anyway but they do get dividends.

But across the entire market and not just public companies, all of them.

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[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's neither free market nor communism, but it sure is capitalism. It's like a wind up toy about to fall off the edge of a table, we need to free the market again somehow to place it back in the middle of the table

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (12 children)

So you can get yours while it slowly edges back to the ledge your children will have to face? Let's fix the problem once and for all.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 32 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Limiting trade like that is market manipulation.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Which is essential to capitalism.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

Its not essential ,its just inevitable. Like most of the problems with capitalism, the problem is the inevitability of wealth consolidation that allows the purchase of power that allows further wealth consolidation that allows the purchase of greater power, round and round. Capitalism is an ouroboros, we are just in the stage where its about to finish eating itself.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Essential? No. It's ultimately just as harmful to an idealized version of the maximized productivity via competition dream. Smith and Locke both have quite a lot to say on the topic. Smith in particular makes a lot of points on how regulation is required to prevent capitalism strangling itself, which modern laissez-faire enthusiasts always conveniently "forget." This is the exactly wrong kind of artificial control by the ruling class that they did rail against.

It's what every capitalist does anyways because it's the easiest way to steal money, yes, and because every modern capitalist is trained to be that way through the ideology that has developed around an economic theory.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I still don't understand why people are so obsessed with gamestop.

it killed all the good game stores.

its exploitative

it doesnt pay shit for trade ins.. especially when you consider what they sell the resultant game for.

and it treats employees like shit.

I genuinely cant understand why stockbros are so fucking obsessed with artificially pumping this shit up with their obsessive memeing for literally years, nor do I understand how it hasnt been investigated as a blatant stock manipulation.

PS: I love how everytime capitalism does something horrible, right wingers come in and are all like "thats like living under communism/socialism/whateverism", completely seriously.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I genuinely cant understand why stockbros are so fucking obsessed with artificially pumping this shit up with their obsessive memeing

It was actually a bit of legit class warfare. The institutional investors and billionaires were shorting GME so much that they were overexposed, and when u/DeepFuckingValue on Reddit spotted and shared it tons of regular middle-class retail investors all piled in to collectively fuck over the billionaires by pumping the price knowing that the short positions would still have to be filled. Probably some billionaires made money too, but for the most part is was a "regular folk vs Wall Street" affair.

nor do I understand how it hasnt been investigated as a blatant stock manipulation.

They literally hauled u/DeepFuckingValue up in front of a Congressional Inquiry for pointing out on Reddit that a stock was oversubscribed, which is more than they've done for the many questionable insider stock purchases made by politicians and their families in recent years. Indeed, that's a big part of why the story won't go away, because it very publicly proved that the rules only apply if you're not connected.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Indeed, that’s a big part of why the story won’t go away, because it very publicly proved that the rules only apply if you’re not connected.

That’s the big point there. Idk if it was really the “little guys” who benefited - mostly people who had the money to invest. But it proved how fucking arbitrary and stupid and meaningless the stock market is.

We’re told that rich people earned their money through hard work - the guy I knew who put his money on GME for the lols and made bank earned more money by doing nothing than I made working 60+ hours a week as a teacher.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand how much the GameStonk hype is completely divorced from the actual business of GameStop, especially years after the initial short squeeze hype. The people who are still into the stock hype are into some QAnon levels of conspiracy theories and messianic prophecies about the stock. It may as well be a religious cult at this point.

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[–] turnip@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

They think hedge funds are still shorting it, and that if they hold long enough they will default.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's the only game store in many places, and a social hub for people who see being a "gamer" as a core part of their identity. Many of them are too young to remember a time when other game stores existed.

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[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago (6 children)

If you can buy stocks in a business in that nation then they are not communist or even trying to pursue Marxism.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Shh...don't tell lemmy.ml about China.

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[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

in communist shares, you pay dividends.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Those damn commies have struck again!! 🫵

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Communism is when there is only one kind of stock to buy on one platform and the government owns both. Robinhood is just being a corporate asshole - couldn't someone buy GameStop shares elsewhere?

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

GME made out okay after all of that, but AMC is still down like 98% isn't it? Those idiots split into APE and AMC and then Reverse Split, which ended up charging fees for every single share a person owned on most brokerages due to the reorganization fees.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And 5 years later my GME is still worth shit. The shorts managed to game the system enough to where they only had a small impact. There will never be a moonshot anymore on it.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well somebody got rich off you all. It just wasn't you.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

At least this person realizes that they aren't going to get their money. Too many people are still deluded and think as long as they keep holding on, they're going to be rich.

Those guys got so fleeced by the people who kept telling them "diamond hands!"

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