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[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 86 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ah yes, the classic move to discord. I'm sure discord is much more tolerant of piracy than reddit.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And calling out their plan to explicitly keep bypassing copyright and directing to where they plan to continue doing it.

If Kodansha already has eyes on your subreddit, they'll see this post and go after the Discord too. It's only a matter of time.

Don't make it this easy for them.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If only there were an anonymous, distributed, peer-to-peer network where things like this could be hosted easily. cough i2p

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 6 points 3 days ago

So say we have an open WiFi guest network at work that's got the general nanny filter on for "bad things in the UK workplace".

But say I brought and plugged in an old phone and started an i2p instance even thou it's going to be heavily firewalled, you reckon it would still help out?

Also, no need to mutter about i2p and I think with this current climate it's a sensible thing to start help out with

https://lemmy.world/c/i2p

then they move to guilded.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If only there were websites that don't care /s.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I do wonder how Lemmy would be impacted by an influx of DMCA complaints. Instances would have to delete the content but I don't think they have the manpower to do so.

Instances like dbzer0 could also get taken down by complaining to the VPS provider if the instance operators wouldn't comply.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Our provider doesn't care for dmcas

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

hella based

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

First of all thank you for hosting this instance.

PS: Irrelevant rambling without a point below.

I don't know how French/EU equivalents to DMCA take down requests work and how trigger-happy OVH is. Given services like real-debrid still operate, it won't be as bad. From what I've heard Hetzner is quite strict when it comes to complaints, so I assume OVH is better.

It's good that you don't allow direct linking to pirate content. It seems to me that on most platforms communities are closed prematurely to avoid further annoyances/complaints, even if they follow the law (like here).

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

db0 addressed this recently. The fun thing about the fediverse is that content is cached on all the different servers. In the case of ActivityPub it's potentially thousands, and not even clear which ones it is or how many. So the complainant would have to go and order DMCA takedowns for each individual server. So the db0 server could be shut down completely but all of its' content would still be readily accessible.

Not sure of the legality of "making an example" of a specific server like db0. I think they probably have to make a DMCA request and then prove that you failed to comply but I'm not a lawyer.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We're not American, and as far as I know luxembourg doesn't have dmca laws. But we anyway don't allow direct linking to pirated content. Only discussion of said content and linking to tlds

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about your DNS provider?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Typically it takes a lot more for dns to be lost. Let's hope it never comes to that, especially since we don't actually allow links to pirate content

[–] muell@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We are legally allowed to share links to pirated content, even in the US.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Maybe but they're always making up new things to sue people for and have their content removed.

[–] muell@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

Complaints are just complaints.

You're allowed to link to and discuss pirated content as much as you want. You can give all the guides and information in the world on how to pirate and how to do it safely.

Corporate scum know random people will get scared from seeing official letters, so they use it as an intimidation tactic to get what they want. That's what should really be illegal, but we live in a backwards society that loves abuse for some stupid reasons.

All out of sympathy for lost souls still milling about reddit.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The japanese publishers are ruthless, as well as the Korean webtoon.

I'll never forget they were able to get in sadpanda to strike everything from Wani.

[–] muell@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't let them suppress our freedom of speech.

Sharing is important to fighting back, that's why they don't want us to do it.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's not freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech means you can criticize the government without fear of repercussions.

Last I checked, reddit ≠ government

[–] muell@lemmings.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Freedom of speech isn't limited to what's written in the US constitution nor is it only applicable to governments.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 3 days ago

Corpos gonna corpo and censorship regime is just one tool of oppression