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This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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[–] driving_crooner 25 points 17 hours ago

I'm coming from a small brazillian instance and we're also getting attacks on the brazillian trans community, on our case is the medical association, dictating that doctors couldn't treat trans kids.

I asked my admin to support you and to de federate them until they change their policy, hope other instances join too.

[–] 0x0f@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 16 hours ago

thanks ada uwu

[–] jac@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 23 hours ago

As a denizen of terf island myself, all I can say is; fucking good! Our enemies hide behind statements like "just asking questions", but there's no room for debate when it comes to people's rights and look where that thinking has gotten us.

The time for debate is over. I want my rights back.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

trans women are not women

Wasn't this a recent court ruling in the UK? Which isn't great.

I don't know all of the terminology, but the entire argument over it just seems so stupid, how does letting trans people exist bother you in any way?

[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, but the best thing is that it's not, like they are claiming, law. It is merely an interpretation. It doesn't stop us from doing anything we were doing previously though ultimately a lot of transphobes and business will inteprate it that way, sadly. Plus there is some whisperings of it meaning certain legal things but it isn't that yet. The Equality Act needs to be updated anyway and if it was this would make the supreme court's ruling null and void.

Even if it does mean new laws most of us will probably break them anyway as unjust laws are not worth paying any attention to.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

For a positive perspective on it the equality act doesn't stop you including more groups than it specifies. So society can advance without needing the government to keep up, as long as enough of society agrees that can allow putting pressure on businesses when they don't keep up.

[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago

Good point! Thank you!

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 21 hours ago

Common Ada W

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 23 hours ago

Based Blåhaj admin is based.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 day ago

Blahaj user and former Brit here ... well done Ada for consistency and transparency regarding this.

The whole "let it play out" attitude really says it all, it shows cowardice and a lack of leadership ... kind of like the current prime minister.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 179 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Obviously I'm not on blahaj, but I think the decision is pretty on point for the goals of blahaj.

It also makes me disappointed in feddit.uk. "Leave it to discussion/votes" is bullshit and just support for the behavior.

Edit: The admin responded elsewhere with "we want to make sure we comply with the law".

My comment remains unchanged. Allowing this is support. Fuck your bullshit law. You're explicitly supporting this bullshit by your inaction.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

"we want to make sure we comply with the law"

on here?

...Christ, why? lmao

They must think they're the main character of lemmy or someshit.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 17 hours ago

Just as bad as Lemmy.world with their admins being totally pro lawyers who just haven't taken the bar, they'd totally pass though.

Maybe worse, we'll see.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"meh, those things sound like work"

-- feddit.uk admin

[–] meh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 16 hours ago

i tried to tell them it sounded more like cowardice than laziness but they just wouldnt hear it.

[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 25 points 1 day ago

They had the time to make a new rule about no generative AI content but couldn't work this out? Stuff em.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Right? Imagine if you said that about the rights for like black women or something? Like, come ON. It's 2025, we KNOW these behaviors are bigoted, rules are way too chill with letting shit like that fly, and is part of the reason it's so prolific now - it's not being treated like the hate speech that it is, and people in power in certain places are like "no I'm not sure we need to discuss it again". It's just gross and horrible and makes me feel so fucking helpless sometimes when a space is dominated with shitties like that.

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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago

Another non-blahaj here to say FUCK YEAH, Ada.

Deplatforming works. Demanding civility from people under attack by disingenuous, insincere "intellectuals" is so much more than just tone policing; it's direct enablement of disenfranchisement and allowing the spread of harm.

It's easy to be bad. It's hard to be good. When bad people are allowed to express their evil ideologies, it is much easier for people to pick up the evil than for the righteous to defend the good.

We cannot be tolerant of intolerance.

So, again, FUCK YEAH, Ada. You rock for protecting your users AND the rest of the world by contributing to the deplatforming of bigots.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 22 hours ago

Disappointing to hear from the feddit.uk. Hopefully they get their shit together, i like their admins.

[–] Nonbinary_Sahrah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 21 hours ago

Thanks for doing good moderation, honestly it sucks that certain admin teams act like this and dont take bigotry seriously.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 23 hours ago

thank u adaaaaa! luv u!

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I'm not a blåhaj user, but I really hope the feddit.uk mindset on this doesn't spread to other instances.

Why do divisive people have to care so much about letting people do what they want if it doesn't affect them? What someone wants to do with their body does NOT affect you, but your open derogatory statements about them DOES affect them!

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Some people will endlessly bicker about the most stupid shit. Like, who the fuck even cares if someone wants to be a woman or a man? That's like the least problematic thing nowadays.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This has always been my stance. If it doesn't affect me, then I am always on the side of people's rights. Automatically. Even if it does affect me, I'm still more likely to be in favor of people's rights. Especially if the people in question are losing rights. I simply don't understand people who think loss of rights stops at people they don't like. It just doesn't work that way. A loss of ANY right against ANYONE is a personal loss of rights.

For instance, I'm not LGBTQ+. But I will fight like hell for their rights. Not just because it's the right thing to do, but because I know what happens when the LGBTQ+ people are gone. These are innocent people who just want to live their life and are under constant threat from physical and legal harm. The fact that Christians get so up in arms about even seeing two men kiss, or holding hands pisses me off on a level I can't describe. Especially when you consider the huge proportion of child molestation in the church. And it is very common that that child molestation was against a child of the same sex as the adult.

I'm not saying there's a causation there, but there's definitely correlation. And that correlation isn't homosexuality of the abuser. The correlation is power. Teaching, clergy, Hollywood, right wing, left wing, it happens on both sides, on all levels, and of moderates as well. But the one thing that always unifies EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. is power. 100%, every single time.

However, Republicans tend to have power/Dom fantasies at a FAR higher rate than Democrats. And again, I'm not saying that's a causation, but it is a correlation.

Power fantasies are insanely dangerous, even if the person is a "lowly" cook. It's potentially civilization ending if the person has the power of the US military. And I've yet to ever hear a Democrat fantasize about being president. Honestly even thinking about it... Fuck that. I can't handle that kind of responsibility. But I guess if trump "can" do it, then I could as well.

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago

Stay classy, TERF Island.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 23 hours ago

I appreciate you 🫶

[–] 2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for doing what you do.

It's ridiculous we are still having to deal with this in 2025. Just yesterday I had to see someone using the tslur as a "joke" under a .world post. Mods removed it. It's not hard to be decent, although some people decide to make it look like an impossible task. As far as I'm concerned, hate speech is not free speech...

[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The way I see it, free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences for what you say. You're free to walk up to the friend group and act like a jackass and personally insult everyone. And they're free to tell you to fk off and stop being friends with you and talking to you. That's not an infringement on your right to free speech, that's consequences for your actions.

These 'free speech' people act like the real world is this place where you can just approach and interrupt any conversation and enter any club without following the rules. They act like groups of like minded people getting together to share interests and ideas without wanting to constantly defend themselves and 'debate' their interests and beliefs is some new thing brought to us by the woke agenda.

And so they think social media should be this place where you can say whatever to whoever, wherever you want and if anyone has a problem with that, they're just anti 'free speech' woke libs or some shit.

[–] 2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 17 hours ago

The fact that they're more concerned with being able to spout off harmful words than they are about the actual wellbeing of people says it all. They hate consequences because they know exactly what the consequences of their actions should be. Never concerned with giving others the same legitimacy they whinge about getting; only about taking it away.

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