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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 35 minutes ago

I already knew that there were plenty of awful people in the US since I studied the civil rights movement in school. Watching white people use fire hoses against Black people and white people being ok with that was a clue. For me the worst part has been watching my friends and family be brainwashed by the MAGA movement. People who I know to be otherwise wonderful people.

For me it's the answer to the zombie question. Do zombies have some part of their former personality still inside? The answer is definitely yes, and not some part, but 100% of their former selves.

I'll be talking to my Mom and she'll be her old self again for a whole conversation. Like the last decade never happened. Then something political will come up and she'll be gone again. And I'm stuck arguing with this zombie.

Fox News has taken multiple family members and I'm sure many more friends. Unlike zombies there was no attack or infection. The brainwashing happened through radio, television, and social media. And unlike zombies there is hope, because people do get out of cults.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

I don't understand how the US is so prop-full of hateful, ignorant, angry people. Is it because of all the lead they ingested towards the end of the 20th century?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 2 hours ago

You just know that guy on the left has a swastika tattoo somewhere on him.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 7 points 2 hours ago

It is escapable. It's propaganda. Show them different news and they are communists.

The worst part of the Trump era is the realization of just how few people don't fall for the divide and conquer manipulation.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 hours ago

It's also amazing just how incredibly tacky the MAGA movement is.

The Nazis were evil, but at least they wore clothing designed by Hugo Boss. At least they borrowed from impressive looking Roman-style banners and eagles. They understood how to use colour, light and so-on to project strength. Even if you acknowledge that the Nazis were evil, at least you can sort of understand why the German people were drawn in.

But the MAGA movement is so weak, so tacky. Even if I were somehow 100% aligned with their beliefs, I wouldn't want to associate with them in public because their whole aesthetic is so embarrassing. I can't understand how anybody can look at Trump and see competence, intelligence and strength. I also can't understand how anybody can look at a typical MAGA rally and see anything other than a design scheme that would make even Wal*Mart cringe.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

One of the good things about living in the bay area is seeing these people on TV, it's like seeing an NPC in a video game. It's hard to believe they are real. The 1st time I saw an IRL maga hat was 2020, and I'm pretty sure it was a tourist at the beach I had to point and laugh. The 2nd time was last month, and I gave that bitch the bird. She was wearing the cringe ass Elon Dark Gothic Maga hat.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 points 5 hours ago

Unfortunately, realization is amazingly escapable.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 27 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I'll never recover, personally. The way my world-view was shattered by how many not just nameless strangers, but people I actually know and interact with, are the worst sort of hateful monsters.

My world is a different place now, and I don't think I'll ever feel the same.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

And then they wonder why I try to escape from the reality.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I know. I have flat Werther's in my family. Real life people who think the earth is flat in 2025. Like did anyone think this is where we would be growing up.

[–] ne0phyte@feddit.org 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Tell me more about these flat Werther's, I've only had the Werther's Original so far.

[–] eyelevel@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

It's not too different from the original, just about 6000 years old.

Not as malicious but covid opened my eyes up

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's stupidity and immaturity more than maliciousness, at least in the case of the US lumpen. The results might be more or less the same but the reframing helps with living in this world and believing in people's 'well-meaning nature'.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

I appreciate this, and it does help turn the ire into pity a bit, but I do worry that unfortunately the effect sort of remains the same regardless

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 8 hours ago

The guy with the Trump tatoo looks like the typical guy who gets a 23&ME saying he's actually part Mexican.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 8 hours ago

Face flag looks like a fun bar guy though. Maybe he's just stupid?

[–] DogOnKeyboard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

To be fair, when was the last time you had as much fun as this guy?

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty recently, honestly. Last Thursday the girl I've fallen in love with asked me to be her girlfriend.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

that guy isn't having fun, he's having a manic episode with violent fantasies.

nobody with that look in their eyes is in control of themselves.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

See! Maybe he's just dumb! I bet he's a fun guy at the bar.

[–] DogOnKeyboard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

He certainly looks the part, even though I don't think I'll agree with him politically.

[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's about time that the progressives start pandering to the dumbass class. Promising to do all sorts of dumbass and unconstitutional things and then supporting actual progressive policy when they get into office.

If this worked for the current Manchurian dumbass candidate - progressives can surely get their deception game in order.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Wouldn’t work.

That is unless they go all in and start carrying crosses around and talking about Jesus nonstop and somehow convince those folks that their opposition are all secret Satanists.

Makes my stomach hurt.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 69 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Without a doubt this is the worst part. It was an immediate and irreversible swing from being an optimist who believes in the good of people to the complete opposite. I now believe humanity is fundamentally flawed and will destroy itself.

Watched too much Star Trek as a kid I guess.

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

I used to think similarly. The outright hatred, apathy, hostility... its sickening.

But I stand by Mr. Rogers' message. Look for the helpers.

Humanity has always grappled with its angels and demons. No fictional evil could ever compare to the cruelty and apathy of real humans being real shit. But despite all that, humans keep trying, and have always kept trying.

This isn't the worst it's ever been. This isn't even the worst it's been here. This isn't even the worst it's been, here, in living memory.

If you know someone over the age of 60, you know someone older than the civil rights act.

Even in a life where discrimination wasn't possible so much as it was fundamental in society, John Lewis and MLK Jr. still had faith in humanity. They still believed in its potential. They still had faith in the face of all of that hatred and ignorance. Faith that a better nation and a better future could be forged in their lifetimes.

And you know what? They were right.

Even today, with all of these threats to return to a time when America was "great"... even now, this is still a better nation than the America of 1963. That is undeniable truth, and it is in large part thanks to heroes like them.

If they could believe in the potential of humanity, I think it's arrogant of us to disagree.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 2 points 8 hours ago

I really do appreciate the words and the sentiment. I would normally agree but right now my faith is still shattered. I think there are good and amazing people, who have done magical and wonderful things. I just think that small and petty tyrants are more common and more indicative of humanity as a whole. That the righteous have to look up from underneath the bootheel of those who deserve to be crushed under one themselves. Instead, those type get to run the show, and obviously always have.

This weekend has been bad mentally. I hope I can find some optimism again. I’m just so tired of expecting the worst and being proven right.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 28 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I once proudly said "when the internet is cheap and easy, everyone will have full access to all information and it will be effortlessly easy for people to stop believing falsehoods and it'll start a swing towards reason!"

I just want to hug teenage me.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

THAT has been the most demoralizing part

That half of my fellow Americans willingly embraced Nazi Fascism

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

the kind of people who dont give the least bit of fuck about pretty horrible things until it happens to them after which they love to play the victim

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 68 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

It didn't take Trump to make this real for me.

I remember how our country treated Muslims after 9/11. I remember how we treated people with AIDS and HIV when I was little. Right now I'm watching Nazi salutes on national TV and no one's getting punched even though the room is packed with the supposed opposition, and the people who consider themselves progressive are unironically enjoying people's families inability to afford food staples.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 6 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, the aftermath of 9/11 was shocking to me as well and, in many cases, deplorable. The use of the terms "sand n-word" and things like "rag-head" were flying around all over (at least in my part of Ohio), Sikhs and others were getting targeted by racists, and the whole thing was such a surreal time.

The small town I grew up in did have a fair amount of anti-semitism (uncool things were referred to by some as "that's Jewish") and I'm sure I heard slurs around that as well. I didn't expect the big, farther-left cities to descend into that.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 40 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

Progressives are becoming more radical as a response to right wing extremism.

I was raised republican and was completely caught up in their propaganda. During that time I would've let you starve to death while holding food if I was told you were part of the 'bad' group. You need to treat Republicans as the dangerous entity they are, don't bother being empathetic, they won't ever reciprocate.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

When I examine my German family tree, this is the kind of shit they fell for too. The only difference, the USA had a healthy economy before Jan 2025, while Germany was a wreck.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago

I think it's a different kind of unhealthy economy.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 88 points 18 hours ago (7 children)
[–] ContessaChaos@lemmy.world 32 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

She's damn sure old enough to know better. 😡

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

She was probably doing it the first time too.

[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 41 points 17 hours ago
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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 150 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

They were always here.

I escaped from the south to the coasts, but I always tried to warn people how vile the worst of us were.

Nobody coukd believe it, but remember, Hitler wrote about the south as the model for Germany in mein kampf, and the nazis copied the Nuremberg Laws from Jim crow almost verbatim.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 24 points 15 hours ago

I am born and raised in a small rural town in northern Nevada, and from my personal experience people have always been this level of unhinged in someway or another. With the rise of the Internet and Trump. It just became more easily accessible to talk to and listen to other unhinged individuals.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 58 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

"Basket of Deplorables" -- as I'm tired of repeating, Hilary was right.

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 54 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

She was. She was John the Baptist but wanted to be Jesus. Opinion on her was fully established so even if she was 45% positive you could never move the dial on the 6% you needed to push her over the top.

She would have been an outstanding attack dog for a fresh candidate if she could have put her ego aside and accept that it wouldn't be her.

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