To be fair, we basically just elected a Biden-style neoliberal who is slightly to the right of Trudeau. As affordability continues to gradually decline, our Trump (Poilievre) or a similar guy will be even more empowered. We're basically a few years behind the USA right now and your right are actively trying to speed it up.
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The liberal party should pass the electoral reform they promised so more political parties can compete on who can beat conservatives the best.
Stopping the conservatives is the priority... right?
The liberal party honors their promises... right?
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That’s why the 2-party system is so flawed. I used to be so gullible to think that if everyone keeps voting for the left party then the parties overall would sway more left in their future policies, but that is impossible in the capitalistic hellhole we live in.
I’m still a bit baffled it doesn’t work.
Like, the Left not doing enough SHOULD lead the right to decide “Dang, we need a message that appeals. Let’s blame the rich, and champion power over corporations!” But…instead they blame nonsensical things, promise nothing, and appeal to hatred, and get more than one vote.
That should just…never happen. That faction should be gonezo, making plenty of room for an independent party.
Bold of you to assume OP doesn't live in Turkey or Israel.
I’m on record as saying even if the US had elected Harris, we’d be right back on the precipice four years after. Maybe Trump, maybe someone else, but it would still be awful.
As badly as the world needs Luigi right now, he’s not the long term solution.
I'm not gonna congratulate Canada on not completely shitting the bed. The Canadians were going to vote in a Trump-like conservative until Trump started banging on about Canada being the 51st state. If Trump kept his mouth shut, it would have been curtains for the Liberal party.
Canadians did not vote for the Liberals based on their record or policies, they voted to tell Trump to fuck off. The moment Trump is no longer a threat, the unity dies and everything swings back to the Conservatives, which isn't a good thing.
Yeah, as someone from the shit hole to the south, I was very relieved Canada didn't go in the populist, right wing, direction it was looking like. I am hoping the failure of the trump administration instigates a push back to the general trend right that has been going on in the west. My bigger, less likely hope, is that we can reflect on what happened and actually address the popularity of fascism.
Yeah it was a close election. We absolutely did not reject Trump with any consensus. There's not as much to celebrate people think.
What people don't know is the Conservatives here have had a revolving door of leaders in search of a Trump-like candidate. The past several election cycles have been this way. The party has sold their soul to MAGA style politics a long time ago.
They just had the best showing ever in this election even though it was a loss. And this is with the best Trump wannabe candidate they've managed to field thus far. A belligerent authoritarian-like tyrant with zero shame. They are not going to stop this any more than the Republicans would to turn back from Trump. They may even keep the current guy even though he lost his own seat.
Canada will inevitably elect a conservative government. It's a defacto two party system. It will all go to hell. Especially if MAGA is still ruling America at the same time.
they voted to tell Trump to fuck off.
God, if only our voters did the same.
But no, let's talk about principles and genocide Joe, I'm sure that will help Gaza, that will really show them all!!!
Yeah, those guys are still pretty butthurt when you call them out. they just can't get over their righteous stupidity backfiring.
They thought they were smarter and more moral than everyone else.
Their arrogant ignorance led to them falling for a trick only slightly less old than "Hey, look over there!".
I'm glad we can drop the fucking bravado and acknowledge this now. We need to in order to survive.
With any luck the Conservatives will split back into two parties. It's unlikely, but the splitting of the Conservatives would be a welcome surprise.
Some people joke about Carney's lack of a "celebrity charisma", or being "too boring".
Tells you all you need to know about why the US is going through its current "historic chapter".
Better to have an economist learn how to be a politician, than a politician learn to be an economist. Too many countries allow themselves and their parliaments devolve into complete fish markets where the person talking the loudest, or getting the cheapest "gotcha" moment, are deemed to be "awesome".
Give me boring, please. "interesting times" are only good to learn about in history books, not as they happen.
May you live in interesting times is a curse, not a blessing.
The really irritating thing to me is seeing the Trumpanzees mock Canada, talking like this is the end of Canada as a country.
No self-awareness, no realization that Trump's policies are the direct cause of this. They can't conceive of any way to advance their interests beyond people just abasing themselves before Trump.
Sure, sure, but, if politics were sane, Carney would have been the conservative nominee and there would have been no fear of fascism.
I already see Canadian tankies complaining about how right-wing Carney is.
- fuck tankies
- i DO think it is fair to lament that the state of the world has anyone in a place where they must strategically vote for a fucking banker to protect you from something worse
I mean the guy is a straight laced professor of economics who wrote his thesis on the advantage of competition. He's not exactly a working class hero. However, it could have been way worse and anyone who can't see that just needs to look at the US to find out what happens when you don't vote for the lesser of two evils.
IMO anybody who promotes competition and antimonopoly is a working class hero.
You don't have to be a tankie to see that Carney is a red tory.
you don’t have to be an authcom to see that carney is to the right of trudeau; he canceled the carbon tax, the capital gains tax hike, and is in favor of building more oil pipelines
no matter who won, canada would shift to the right. all we could do is decide by how much.
(and either way, all 3 of them - trudeau, carney and poilievre - are neolibs who support the genocide in palestine)
He cancelled the carbon tax because the name had been beaten up by the Conservatives. He promised to replace it with something similar but more palatable to the general public. I loved the carbon tax but agree that half the population was against it because pretty much they hated the name.
He explained in depth his reasoning for both of those decisions and if you listen to him its because the carbon tax failed to accomplish its goal and he is going to tackle the problem another way.He still supports the issue he is just trying a different solution.
For the cgt its because Canada has entered a trade war with its closest trading partner and he is planning to do massive investment in Canada and doesnt want a cgt hike disincentivizing investment.
Do you disagree with this reasoning?
Anything to the left of the Liberals is "tankies" now?
People to the left of Liberals aren't Tankies, but Tankies whinge that the winner is not left of Liberal. They would probably also whinge about an NDP PM. The only outcome I can see them celebrating is conservative victory. Tankies are scum of the earth.
Stephen Harper when he was leader of the Conservative Party offered Mark Carney a position as Finance Minister.
So Conservatives sure thought he was far enough to the right to be a Conservative.
And if the conservative had won they all would have suddenly become optimists "the bright side is that this will weaken the western empire and accelerated the revolution of the working class!"
Friggin love this meme template. Why was that little boy so mad? What did he want to do that day instead of getting his pictures taken? I relate, little dude.
I think they are headshots for an acting resume. So he is upset about being a child celebrity
I was watching a video of an american that lives abroad saying he is trying to get a new nationality at the country he lives at, because he thinks the country, and other countries as well, may not want americans around for much longer. He said he's afraid things may escalate. I thought that was so crazy! how fast you can go from feeling safe and privileged to suddanly feeling like you are hated by everyone. 100 DAYS!
Looking at quite a few reactions from other countries, a lot of them seem to want to brain drain the hell out of the US.
Canadian conservatives are 40% of the voters. That's already way to much. And they using the trump book more and more: lie, lie and blame the left for fucking anything, some things will sticks. Even if I'm glad he was elected to deal the american shit show, the guy is still a fucking banker who's first action was to remove the carbon taxe. While we have to deal with the toddler from south who wants to annex us, the climate crisis wont fix itself magically.
yeah yeah well our broken country will still infect them like a mold so nanny nanny boo boo.
The expressions are correct. It was waaay too close for comfort.
I voted for him. But he is still a Lib and we still need something better.
Also, Mexico
The propaganda train remains strong up here regardless. Half of the west is losing their mind every day pretending that Carney is some kind of secret nightmare that is going to soon be revealed, thus we've all shit the bed and will rue the day.