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[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago

It was probably higher before, but it wasn't as acceptable to say it as it is today.

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah because they started to get fucked over

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

we should normalize to punch everyone in the gut who uses the words "quiet quitting".

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Heh, I've seen this personally. I work for a Japanese company, and part of my job is coordinating tooling installations with the factory I'm stationed at (pick a chip fab in the US, I've probably been there). When we get a tool onsite, I get an install team directly from our factory in Japan who handles all the physical installation aspects. They work hard, efficiently, and with the utmost care for the finer details (some of these tools are expected to last 20+ years - we have a few that have been in production for nearly as long with very little fuss). Occasionally, they will finish their tasks early the last couple days and take off after lunch, letting me know of this beforehand and that their daily reports will be sent to me and other relevant managers at the "usual" time, with a wink and a nod.

I don't care how much time they clock, as long as shit gets done properly. Haven't had any issues.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

How is this related to quiet quitting?

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

Hmm, what's your definition of quiet quitting? The definition I understand is doing your job as it is described to you, but not doing any of the "going the extra mile" for free, or putting in extra effort beyond what the job description entails.

I'm also curious if those replying to you also have the same or different definitions, since conversations only work if we agree on the definition of terms.

[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 23 points 7 hours ago

Generally, leaving work early in Japan is (was?) seen as lazy and a sign of a morally dubious person. Keep in mind that, traditionally, people in Japan are expected to work 12-16 hour days with no complaints and, for businesspeople, sleep at the office if there is a lot of work to be done.

The fact that people are eager to leave early and don't think of it as inherently shameful signifies a huge shift in culture.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Considering the article specifically mentions Japan, and that typical Japanese work culture is quite literally the opposite of what I've observed, I think this is very related.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Japanese work culture often meant staying late and working unpaid overtime to appear extra-productive. Now you've got an anecdote describing people who finish the job, consider their work done, and cut out early despite not having fulfilled an arbitrarily dictated number of hours worked. It is a sharp reversal in behavior.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 25 points 8 hours ago

The Japanese work ethic doesn't even make sense and does more harm than good. If you don't have time for yourself or family the society will collapse (already happening). To be clear, I'm not talking about being diligent work, but working 8+ hours every single day.

Many Japanese don't leave work at 5pm even though those are the official business hours because it's rude to leave before the boss leaves. So people stay at work until 7 or 8pm. Many times having to also go drinking with co-workers or the boss. So, depending on the day, you may end up with 1-2 hours for yourself. No wonder they aren't having children, and depression rates are sky high.

Same applies to Korea.

[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 48 points 11 hours ago

This is what happens in societies that have increasing income inequality.

Why should workers feel compelled to bust their asses when it benefits their bosses, but not themselves?

[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

so goes Japan, so goes the world!!! ive been quiet quitting since i entered the work force

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Hard work is rewarded with more work and the extra value is pocketed by a C-Suite.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 31 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Thank goodness. Now when im napping during work I can feel less guilty thinking about Japan doing it too.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

When you're napping, know that someone in Japan is also asleep, but largely because of the time change.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

Thanks friend. Lol

[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago

ow when im napping during work I can feel less guilty thinking about Japan doing it too.

if questioned, tell your Boss, you are practicing a japanese work ethic

[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 14 hours ago
[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 170 points 20 hours ago (15 children)

Fuck the term quiet quitting. Call it what it is, doing your job.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 35 points 12 hours ago

Employee burnout is a symptom of a toxic work culture, and "quiet quitting" is a corporate psyop invented to prevent you from noticing it.

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