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Oh at least (some of) Africa is green, but why tf is Italy greener than China? We have one of the lowest freedom of expression scores in the "international community"

The US and Germany straight up put you in jail if you pirate, that's not freedumh.

Also French cops can access your phone at every moment, and do who knows what.

Bonus point for green ukkkraine and t*iwan

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[-] MatBC@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 11 months ago

It's kinda pointless to debate a map with no source or metodolgy attached to it, it's literally propaganda.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 11 months ago

They depicted India as less censored than China. For context, the Indian state has been imprisoning critical journalists without trial by abusing colonial era sedition laws. Recently they arrested journalists from Newsclick based on a New York Times article that falsely accused of them being funded by the Chinese. They also cut off the internet in an area when shit goes south.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

Yea China may have a wallled internet but they don't shutdown the internet like India does. You can get past the wall fairly easy too.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 11 months ago

The Great Firewall is absurdly misrepresented in the west. I feel like big-C censorship could have been a part of the plan, but the main reason it exists is so that Chinese indigenous tech companies could have a chance to exist and grow. India is again a great counterexample because our freedumb has lead to IT infrastructure getting captured by western corporations like Meta and Amazon. We had an indigenous Amazon counterpart (called Flipkart) but it ended up being bought by Walmart.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 11 months ago

The firewall is also good for westerners cause it protects their feeble fragile minds from hundreds of millions of Chinese shitposters

[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

I wish I could see said shitposts

[-] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago

Lol the wifi at my amerikkka academic institution blocks all .ru sites and rt.com (which they did without telling anyone) and they publicly blocked all Chinese social media including TikTok and WeChat. But yeah, we're the free ones

[-] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

Nooooo its actually good when private institutions do the censorship! it means the government doesn't censor anything! totally not a loophole!

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Except most acidemic institutions are public

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago

Don't forget that these folks don't consider censorship by companies to be censorship. Most of the censorship in the world happens by editors making decisions about what will make them the most money, including what will maintain their access to people giving them stories and what will keep the big bosses happy.

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 11 months ago

France, where protesting for Palestine will land you in jail is green?
Someone should maybe check with Assange on what he thinks of the US being green.

They didn't even try to show any kind of method here, they just colored based on what countries they like the most.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Russian and Iranian media are blocked EU wide as far as I know. But that's not censorship, that's wholesome deplatforming of hate speech or whatever the libs in your member state of choice call it.

Twitter has long flagged every single link to a .cn domain as "potential misinformation" or a similar term, regardless of what content is hosted at that domain.

[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

You can be arrested for carrying materials to make protest signs in the UK. How on earth is it on the green side?

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

us-foreign-policy

Death to America

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 11 months ago

More like "Which countries let western tech monopolies dominate their markets".

[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 11 months ago

In Denmark it is a crime to insult the Royal Family, that's not freedom

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 11 months ago

Actually makes sense if you read it not as "being censored by other countries". Like, the US and EU countries stances on international and domestic issues can be heard everywhere while China's stance is always censored, so China is most censored as in "being victim of censorship"

[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago
[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 months ago

This reminds me of a lib who was vehemently anti-CPC because they "censor dissenting opinions" but then he ended up censoring dissenting opinions on a Roblox elevator group he hates, by stating that more professional language on that article "made it sound more like a promotion than a wiki" glad i left that shithole

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Do people play roblox just to be in elevators?

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

it's a subgroup, but there is a roblox lift community

As an ex-member, I do not recommend going there. You're going to be harassed to no end for being a communist and then get blamed for it

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 11 months ago

Everyone in Greenland has ceased to exist

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why is Myanmar less censored than China?

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

Because this is a map of "what countries is it acceptable to support"

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

because the person who made this map hates China and knows literally nothing about Myanmar

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 11 months ago

How do Canada and Australia have less censorship than the US? Burgerland is the freeze peach capital of the world.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 11 months ago

For some reason Canada tends to fair better than the US whenever these maps are made. I don’t know why Canada is greener than America here but it may be due to hate speech laws? We do have them but they seem a lot more lax than what you’d expect, also this map might be about media censorship which I guess isn’t common here? Maybe it’s because of the existence of the CRTC.

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

usians are the most propagandized people on earth

[-] JealousCactus@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

In America you are free to start a newspaper, it's just a weird coincidence that every outlet that's considered legitimate sides with American foreign policy all the time

[-] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

You need money to start a paper.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Not really, there are a lot of small presses, just no one wants to read your stuff and distribution would be difficult. That’s why the internet has mostly replaced newspapers for small operations.

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Surprising amount of green in Africa on this "countries that are good" map

[-] chocoraisinboi@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

A big chunk of it is just ecowas

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago
[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

Today I learned that the only truly free country in the world is Namibia.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago

No, you misunderstand the map. This is a map of the countries that are censored in Burgerland.

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

nodding my head sagely as I look at the good bad map again being a subscriber to the subreddit where we upload the same map everyday

[-] comradeRichard@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As a colorblind commie I can't make sense of it at all... The least and most seem like the same color?

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