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[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 89 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Very common cult tactic to this day

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 23 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Also a friend tactic. It's just a nickname

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 4 hours ago

We have a Posh Mike at work.

I don't even think he's called Mike.

[–] RobotFK@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago

I have friends of witch I could not tell you their legal name at Gunpoint

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago

Learn from the best.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 108 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

The names don't have obvious meaning in English but they did in their original languages. Simon is a Hebrew name from the torah and means "he who hears". Peter comes from Petros, the Greek translation of Cephas, the original Aramaic name Jesus gave him and means "rock". So Jesus gave a Jewish guy with a Hebrew name an Aramaic (nick)name because Jesus saw him as the rock (foundation) of his church.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Hmm, makes it more likely that Jesus never existed and the whole thing is made up by the church, imo. It's always retrospective with names and meanings, especially if you name them "foundation".

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus obviously existed. He wasn't a god (he never claimed he was) but he obviously existed.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

No, it's not obvious at all. There's no historic account of him aside of the bible. And yeah, the trinity thing, that was the church ~300 a.c.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

There is historical account of him, just not from contemporary figures.

There are Roman historians who write of him, but they came years after.

It is generally accepted that the Christ figure is based on a historical figure however the story we are told now is much more tenuous as it is largely based on written works from folks who are retelling tales that may (or may not) have been known

[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I am amazed that the name "Pierre" (also french for stone) litterally comes from the greek for "rock"

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Rome and it's consequences

[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, his name was Simeon bar Jonah, Simon, son of Jonah, or by modern style, Simon Johnson. Then Jesus pops up and starts calling him the Rock... Simon the Rock Johnson. (also fun gravy, Dwayne means fishhook)

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I thought Dwayne meant pipe?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Matthew 16:18

BTW I know this one because of Angels & Demons.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

You can see them too?

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 30 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Now everything make sense. In spanish, "Peter" is "Pedro", that sounds like "Piedra", that means "Rock"

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 28 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

See also 'petrify' (make into rock) and 'petroleum' (rock fat)

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The female for "Pedro" is "Petra", what make it more obvious, and also "Petronila" is a woman name, that comes from "Petroleum"

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I’d be fucking mad if my parents named me after petroleum

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 7 minutes ago

"The name's Diesel now"

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 21 hours ago

omg, in french Peter is translated to Pierre which also means "rock"! i always assumed that was a coincidence

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 8 points 20 hours ago

Don’t know why you got downvoted, because that is some very good information. Thanks.

[–] driving_crooner 71 points 1 day ago (16 children)
[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 34 points 23 hours ago

Pretty much this. Cults isolate you as their first step. Anything that can be used to make you feel beholden to them, or "fresh/new". They make you think your parents are the enemy, and convince you that your real "family" is inside the cult.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 13 points 21 hours ago

Also every Hollywood agent with Jewish clients from 1900 until present day.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (14 children)

Paul's is the funniest because he only got one letter changed from "Saul," even though he had used to be the biggest menace. He was a Christian hunter. Not like a professional one, more like McCarthyism but against Christians.

Saul was a perfect example of sin, and Jesus said, "Let's switch that 'S with a P, and he's all good. '"

(Please don't hurt me, I'm joking)

Edit: Wait, my bad. Jesus changed his Roman name, "Paul" to "Saul," (which was Paul's, Jewish name), and after Jesus died, when Paul moved to Rome, he went by "Paul" again. That's also right before he was imprisoned and executed and where he'd write parts of the N.T.

I had to double-check everything, lol. That felt like the mendala effect. It turned out he also spent some time in the Bahamas dreaming about some guy named Yosef.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Saul (Sha'ul) is a Jewish/Hebrew name. Paulos is a Greek name. Even until now, bilingual people who are of a minority culture (compared to where they're living) often have two names, one in their their native (family) language and one in the local majority language, one official, the other unofficial.

This was not limited to Paul, even in that immediate timeline. Levi (Jewish name) was also called Levi (Greek name). There's no reason to believe Paul "changed" his name sheet his conversion. He continued to go by Saul after he became a Christian. He went by his Jewish name among Jewish people, then his Greek name when he travelled across Rome and interacted with Greek-speakers.

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