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Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  • People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.
  • Climate change is part of mainstream awareness, most people want to see action on it.
  • Gays and lesbians are very broadly accepted in many parts of the world. Trans people are too (and they are more visible), even if there is also a culture war backlash.
  • Nearly everyone hates capitalism. Not everyone has figured out what needs to be done about it, but it's a good start.
  • Conspiracy thinking is more rampant, presumably because of internet (mis/dis)information bubbles

(I was born in the early 80s, so this is over the last 30ish years, since the mid 90s)

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.

People still don't understand.

"Just be happy" is still a thing.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the states anyway, our sense of community has almost vanished. Rather than concerning ourselves with improving society, we have become a nation of de facto sovereign citizens, all of us competing with everyone else.

Even common courtesy has gone down the shitter. On the roads, at retail establishments, everything is a fight. Shove your way past everyone or you're weak.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been arrested, held up at gun point, and spent a few weeks in a Texas jail in the 90s because I like smoking weed. Now I have 3 weed stores within 2 miles of me, and it's as mundane as buying a loaf of bread. So that's a positive in my book.

[–] tipicaldik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

haha yeah I've been a pothead for 40-several years and I got my Florida MMU card last year. It took me a while to get past my "kid in a candy store" phase. Geez I wasn't used to having ANY choice, let alone that many choices 😆

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The circa 1990 nature of American society has been erased so completely that it is hard to believe how drastically it has changed.

Movies used to depict child molestation (Indiana Jones) or outright rape (Revenge of the Nerds) as normal and to be celebrated when it was done by the heroes. A lot of crimes got viewed through the lens of whether it was “our people” doing them. The thinking features in a lot of old movies.

The cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty by a jury, in the first trial. After all, they’re the cops, they’re allowed. Drunk driving was fine, as long as you were one of the right kind of people. The cops would beat the fuck out of people and it was fine. The factory in town could be polluting the river and it was fine as long as dad had a job. And so on.

The uniformity of thought that TV enforced, before the internet, is really not well understood. If you thought Israel was bad, then you and Noam Chomsky were literally the only ones. Even as late in the arc as the Iraq War, I would say about 95% of the people who didn’t get their news from the internet supported the war. Watch one of the debates where Ron Paul was speaking against the war with everyone else (except the audience) just weirded out and confused by it, or the “Media-Opoly” short that aired on SNL once and then never again, to get some idea by contrast of how airtight the lock on narrative used to be. TV and newspapers are still kind of that way, but they don’t have the media monopoly they used to. It used to be that someone probably would live their entire adult life without ever hearing the kind of political viewpoints you see every day on Lemmy as normal things.

On the other hand, along with the expectation that everyone was kind of a piece of shit and that’s how life is, came a kind of backbone for resistance that I feel like is missing today. Woodstock ‘99 would be a pretty normal “yeah they robbed us” badly organized festival today. It was way better than the Fyre Festival, and people at Fyre just took it, or called their lawyers. At Woodstock ‘99, the kids threw bottles and batteries at Kurt Loder, broke in the ATMs and stole their money back, and then ripped the venue apart with their bare hands and burned it all to the ground.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty by a jury, in the first trial. After all, they’re the cops, they’re allowed. [snip] The cops would beat the fuck out of people and it was fine.

This hasn't really changed though.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It absolutely has. Before Rodney King it was always fine. From 1992 to about 2014 it was mostly fine. From 2014-2020, it was a debate, and after 2020, they're pretty much always guilty. There's a whole interesting conversation to be had about why it was that all kinds of riot and peaceful protest had basically 0 result until 2014-2020, and then in 2020 it all of a sudden starting working significantly.

Anyway, now under Trump, some of the reform is going backwards. There were some outlier departments that were still in the 1992 mode, and the feds were doing some things to try to come down on them, whereas now it's the opposite, Trump is actively pardoning dirty cops. Great stuff.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Outside of formal settings, I'd say that it's uncommon for women to wear skirts or dresses in day-to-day life now.

Menswear is considerably more casual. This is a trend that's been going for over a century or so, so it certainly didn't just happen during my life, but it did significantly change in that time.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No smoking indoors anymore. I remember when you could still smoke in a hospital. Then they limited it to just a "smoking lounge" on each floor. Followed eventually by a ban inside...to finally no smoking anywhere on hospital property.

Not to mention airplanes, restaurants and movie theaters.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

I'd go further than that. I remember smoking being pretty common everywhere in the 1980s, and cigarette butts being common anywhere outdoors in a public setting.

I rarely see anyone smoking anymore, and rarely see a single cigarette butt.

That being said, where you are in the US is gonna be a factor, and there are some countries that do still see a fair bit of smoking.

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The mall was full of stores with good quality products that you would value for a non insignificant amount of time if purchased.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got started on the Internet in 1988. You had to learn Unix (Linux didn't exist yet) and the command line (GUI Internet didn't exist yet), and had to manually piece together files to download them (www didn't exist yet).

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More aggressive driving. Statistics even support it so it's not just an anecdotal thing.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the population of the u.s. has increased by almost 100,000,000 since 1990. that's a lot more assholes on the road

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/population

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone has reduced their perception of the world to a Bad Apple-esque black and white extreme of good or bad. All In Support or Nuclear Strike Disapproval. No inbetweens allowed.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

When I was still a kid, we went from bring a plate of cookies to your neighbor and introduce yourself to DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS!!

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[–] AngryishHumanoid@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 week ago

Better but much more expensive insulin, although price has gone down significantly since Affordable Care act.

[–] squarebrain@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cable TV use to be something that teathered us all together in a way. We were all stuck on the same schedule for premiers of new episodes of different shows so we all had a common thing to talk about come the next day. Now I have no idea what’s playing on what service and have just given up on staying up to date on the new shows. I could have access to $TVShow but probably won’t watch it because I don’t like to binge watch so it takes me longer to catch up and by the time I do it has already left the minds of my peers so why bother.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Game of Thrones was the last time I had this experience.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I could have access to $TVShow but probably won’t watch it because I don’t like to binge watch so it takes me longer to catch up and by the time I do it has already left the minds of my peers so why bother.

I enjoy not having my entertainment options constrained by whether other people are watching them at the same time, so I'm loving the change. Especially since I didn't like over half of the shows that 'everybody' watched.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I was a kid, it was assumed that boys asked girls to dances and not the other way around. In the recent Pixar series Dream Productions, a tween girl is asked who she's going to ask to the school dance. It's now treated as normal for girls to ask boys. She also ends up not going with a date and just going with her friends.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

“no one talks to each other in person, they’re on their phones always”

No one talks to each other on their phones either. They send texts.

[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 week ago

No more milk delivered each morning to my door.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

The country I live in turned from a poor shithole, into a developed state

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Negative: Worse driving interactions (as a pedestrian/cyclist), especially post-covid.

Positive: People are generally more accepting of things, and people seem to be more comfortable sharing parts of them that make themselves different from the "norm".

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was trying to think of specifics, but they're already getting mentioned. I'd just say a lot of these things stem from there being literally double the amount of humans alive right now than when my dad was born. An individual is devalued immensely and cultural cohesion is completely shot.

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