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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 75 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I honestly feel that this falls into parental responsibility. Both Android and iPhone comes with parental controls and the same is true for browsers on computers.
Android example:

iPhone example:

It's a search away to find step-by-step guides for this stuff, so you don't even need to know how to do it yourself.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Instead of, or in addition to, DNS filtering is also an easy technique (1)

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[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

In my experience, there's always a way around parental controls on these devices and if there isn't, there's always a way that your child will subvert them in other ways.

Half the time it's a well-intentioned and ignorant adult providing them the means.

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[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Years ago the .xxx TLD was introduced for adult websites. If we're going to regulate adult sites. Why not require them to use .xxx for their domains and let parental controls do the rest?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 64 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because that's not authoritarian enough.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Daddy state gonna protect your children for you...

Just like they did with the Catholic church, trust me bro

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Shit. Dark but fair.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

DNS for security? What could possibly go wrong...

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We're not taking about security. We're taking about unsupervised children seeing boobies.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

That's exactly a security concern from a design point of view. Your desire to trivialize it doesn't change its nature, access control is access control. That's not what DNS is for and making it do that is going to cause everyone regret.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You're not wrong. But if I had to pick between blocking .xxx on my kid's device or uploading a photo of my ID to various porn sites, I know which one I'm choosing.

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This is a parents are too lazy to parent concern not a security concern.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 68 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The EU, like Texas, Florida, etc wants age verification on porn websites. To "safeguard children" ofcourse.

They pinky promise that the surveillance machine they're building will never be used for harm!

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

I play the game called “VPN to the US south and try to find pr0n”

It’s not very difficult. Only the big sites apparently have to comply with the ban. It’s still fucked up and authoritarian tho

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This has resulted in many porn sites simply denying users from those locations.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 45 points 6 days ago

It said the platforms also do not appear to be abiding by requirements for porn sites to use age verification tools to protect children from accessing adult content.

Good, no implementation of this not privacy nightmare.

It comes amid wider scrutiny of online pornography services worldwide, with many regulators looking to crack down on those that do not have age verification in place.

HAHAHA good luck with 1 billion head hydra.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In a January blog post, it said age verification should take place on users' devices, such as through their operating system, rather than on individual, age-restricted sites.

The details of this are potentially problematic, as they could preclude the use of open source browsers and operating systems.

It would be great to standardize an HTTP header that says the user is underage, which could be sent by any OS/browser combination that has suitable parental controls.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It would be great to standardize an HTTP header that says the user is underage, which could be sent by any OS/browser combination that has suitable parental controls.

I think this underestimates the tech savvyness of teenagers when it comes to circumvent such measures. Or maybe i am mistaken because when i was in that age range it was common to know more about computers than the parents.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kids can't use computers, and that's not good for the world. If teenagers figure out enough about how the computer works to get around the parental controls and watch porn, I consider that a net win.

I don't actually care if teenagers sophisticated enough to do that see porn.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/post/30075546/17215433

I’ve got my kids using Linux on Raspberry Pis, and I honestly want them to break it so that then they have to figure out how to fix it.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 days ago

you can have your Pi and break it too!

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Banning teenagers from porn is not a fight worth anything.

It is kids we should be worried about. 8 year olds who get in contact with hard core porn or fetish porn or violent porn. That is not good for their development.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I agree, and I think my solution in combination with some filter lists addresses that problem pretty well. Very few eight year olds will have the ability or desire to bypass restrictions like that to look at porn.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Kids today are not tech savvy. UIs are streamlined and bugs are much less common in popular apps so they have to do less self directee troubleshooting to learn from.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Technical solutions don't do shit and only inconvenience or compromise regular users. Where are the parents in all this?

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

It is increasingly unrealistic to entirely prevent children from having unsupervised access to internet-connected devices from a young age, but attempts to make it impossible for anyone under 18 to access porn are equally unrealistic, and often far worse than the problem they purport to solve.

With good parenting, the possibility of accessing porn won't harm most kids. It's not just about keeping them away from it, but about teaching healthy and realistic attitudes toward sex.

[–] Wobble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I do not think politicians know what children see on Roblox

[–] iii@mander.xyz 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A recent EU workgroup on this spend 50 minutes discussing the implications on the "metaverse".

These people really have no idea how technology works. They just know the marketing of the big few social media companies.

Someone should tell them about IPFS.

[–] jimmy@feddit.org 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

It makes no sense that the age limit is 18 when most European country's age of consent is lower than 18. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Holly shit. At least I'm not in the worst EU country, but second worst, really? I thought it was 18.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

Uh ? What's wrong about that ? These are basically generalized romeo&Juliet laws.

The highlighted age is that from which a young person can lawfully engage in a non-commercial sexual act with an older person, regardless of their age difference. If a participant in a sexual act is under 18 but above the age of consent then sexual acts with another person who is at or over the age of consent may still be illegal if the older participant is in a position of authority over the younger person.

Despite what the text says, here in France, being over 18 while the other person is not can often be enough to be considered in a position of authority btw

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

One day I am going to make a monster truck and call it "For Child Safety" and you know that shit will be the most unhinged monster truck ever because it will be driven by a teacher who's career doesn't exist anymore.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I love when these clowns regimes come for the chidren but they didn't do anything about the Catholic church.

Bad faith behavior all around.

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[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Won't somebody think of the children!!! If we ban Pornhub then all the children will be saved forever!

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Fediverse exists. AFAIK, there is a Lemmy porn instance.

What happens on the Fediverse, stays on the Fediverse.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Do kids go to websites to see porn? Or they are bombard with pornography in social medias?

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I certainly did as a kid in the late 90s and early 2000s. I found dirty magazines before I had access to the Internet, and after I visited both pornsites and outright gore like rotten.com. None of it harmed me in any way.

If anything, the various shock sites we were tricked into seeing, like goatse, tub girl, lemon party and 2 girls 1 cup were worse, but even those weren't too bad, and I appreciate understanding the cultural references to them.

The real question is whether seeing some porn is actually a problem. I'd argue not, provided there's also sex ed teaching you that porn does not model healthy sex or relationships.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 days ago

Considering the disgusting ads I see on youtube all the time, I do think there needs to be more regulation around it to be honest

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Why does it seem to me that Britain is becoming a testing ground for bad laws that then turn into EU directives that then member countries must implement?

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