Can you guess who played the lead role in destabilizing the FRCA?
It starts with United and rhymes with Bates of Bamerica.
USA! USA! USA!
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Can you guess who played the lead role in destabilizing the FRCA?
It starts with United and rhymes with Bates of Bamerica.
USA! USA! USA!
It sounds like a bit of a shitshow even without US involvement
The republic was politically unstable, experiencing civil wars, rebellions, and insurrections by liberals and conservatives. From 1827 to 1829, it fell into a civil war between conservatives who supported Arce and liberals who opposed him. Liberal politician Francisco Morazán led the liberals to victory, and was elected president in 1830. The republic descended into a second civil war from 1838 to 1840, by the end of which the states of Central America declared independence and the federal republic ceased to exist.
Historians have attributed the country's political instability to its federal system of government and its economic struggles. Agricultural exports were insufficient and the federal government was unable to repay its foreign loans, despite favorable terms. Central America's economic troubles were caused in part by the federal government's inability to collect taxes and inadequate interstate infrastructure.
Foreign loans means they were being fucked by Empire. This is colonialism.
Nobody was arguing that colonialism didn't play a part, even though the article does mention that the loans had pretty favourable terms.
Loans are exploitive by definition.
What these countries need is reparations, a transfer of wealth from all that was stolen from them.
I mean aren't those countries made up by the former colonialists, they should probably be paying the og natives
Someone didn't read US history before trying to recreate things.
Yes, and I also think everybody should read more history. There are a lot of lessons in Latin American history for US citizens as well.
Which lesson from US history should the have read?
The US had a very similar struggle with a weak Federal government, an inability to tax, and high debts when it was first formed. The early government went through very drastic changes to become what we have today.
Of course it wasn't that far back in history at the time this central American government was going through the same exact problems. Those changes came to the US in the late 1780s. I wonder if they would have had access to the Federalist papers, might have changed things.
And then there were more gradual changes over time made by the Supreme Court interpretations of the Constitution, but those started more after the Civil War with the Marshall court.
How would the US have even been capable of intervening?
Largely diplomaticly and financially. The US actively supported secessionists with guns and money. Being fair the little federation was never very stable, but the US got involved immediately to ensure it never found it's footing.
Imagine that, if during the first Constitutional Convention in the late 1780's, if Europe had sent envoys to separate factions with an assload of weapons and whispered "hey, you really gonna let them get away with that shit? I got your back bro if this gets bloody..."
That's kinda what we did.
Do you have sources for that? The US only had a competent federal government itself for a short period before this.
Guns. See also the Spanish American war.
The US has a lot of rich people who own fruit companies who have an interest in making as much money as possible on the backs of wage slaves.
Were there international American fruit companies at that point? Seemed like you could just use your American slaves.
I know this will most probably be an unpopular opinion, but as someone who was born and raised in Central America, I have never understood why these countries are separate countries.
Yeah Nicaragua and Guatemala are the ones I’m familiar with from a few years of childhood and they exist in my memory as the same place. I’m guessing that’s true for a lot of adjacent countries in the Americas, or maybe anywhere colonists helpfully contributed their own borders (/s).
It's because the US violently overthrows any government that attempts to unify against them
Wait until you hear about the Gran Colombia.
Came here to say this
I just traveled to Guatemala and learned that once you're in Guatemala, which is visa-free for most countries, you can also travel visa-free to Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua during your stay.