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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

But isn't trying to influence public policy illegal?

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In what country? It's pretty normal to see companies lobbying for policy here, or urging people to sign petitions.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know. It just feels like something like this shouldn't be legal

[–] Griffus@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

In most of the world it is, and seeing how where it is not is developing, that is a vert god thing.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think so.

When my city had a soda tax, every fucking store put a sign out calling it a war on poor people tax. But it was a $0.10 increase on sugary drinks to add to the educational budget.

Or maybe it is illegal but I live in a shit hole country.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I live in Taiwan and I don't think it's legal for companies to sway policy.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Ah yeah so definitely America is a shit hole country.

[–] Aknight2015@lemm.ee 10 points 13 hours ago

Public transit is a direct threat to their shareholders.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Why tf is Uber notifying people of anything not directly related to a ride they’ve ordered??

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Walmart near me has put up signs at the check out complaining about some tax.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If I ever went to my local Walmart, I'd turn them around.

If you knock them over, they'll get fixed faster.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 11 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

This has to be illegal and if it isn't it should be.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

For some reason tech companies get a pass on a ton of regulations just because they're a different form of whatever they're replacing.

"No no no Ubers not a taxi service it's an app. toooootally different..." /s

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

If you have money, legality means nothing. Uber has money.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Looks like an app notification

They can send notifications through their app (which you installed and very probably accepted to in the terms and conditions) without any legal concern so yeah no.

Even if you try fighting it they'll just say hey it's your phone man just uninstall the app

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 11 points 19 hours ago

Outrageous!

It should be a progressive tax topping out way higher than that!

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Oh no private equity isn't getting it's way.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

If it is so secret how come you know about it

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 21 hours ago
[–] hark@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When tiktok did this, politicians took that as a sign to further ban efforts. When does uber get banned?

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

When it stops being American and stops bribing American politicians, obvs.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

"Secret" yet this was likely voted on at the ballot.

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ridesharing is an improvement on some of the problems of privately owned cars. Its more equitable and accessible. It saves the necessity of giant parking lots.

Public transit is even better!

[–] LemmiChanga@programming.dev 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fediverse rideshare? Maybe. Not sure how the liabilities would fall.

[–] capybara@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

Define ridesharing. I think of e.g. sharing a ride to work or school and not people working, often full-time, with sharing rides

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, in principle. However, uber have a well known history of skirting labour laws, skirting taxi laws and doing so to undermine competition and then jack up prices. Risesharing is better than owning a car, but monopolies in how that works are not good for anyone except uber.

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

My high school econ teacher pointed out that New York used to have a fixed number of taxi licenses.This made competition illegal and kept the price up.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

I don't know about NYC specifically, but that's pretty common. Not only were there a set amount, there are set fees and minimum standards and requirements for people with disabilities and police checks for drivers etc.

Uber circumvented a lot of those rules. The taxi industry was due for an update and vested interests were preventing that. However, we've exchanged one monopoly for another. And now, instead of lots of small business owners, we have one large business andots of wage slaves and surge pricing.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Everywhere. That’s not a nyc problem.

Ubers success is largely from breaking this customer unfriendliness. I use uber because the app is more convenient and effective than finding a taxi and trying to tell them where to go. Uber is less expensive, I can track the route if I disagree with it, and I have the opportunity to give feedback. At least as importantly, uber is far more common than taxis were. From a customer perspective, it’s a pretty good deal.

However they bent a lot of laws to get there, and exploit their drivers. Limited taxi medallions were originally in place to establish standards for customer service mandate service to underserved areas, on the one hand and to support reasonable wages on the other, although likely got captured by the industry. Every “gig economy” business is bending employee/contractor law and most are likely dependent on violating minimum wages, benefits and worker protection laws, what little we have of that.

Downtown I can get an uber in minutes, while there were never enough taxis. Here in the suburbs it takes a long time to get an uber, but medallions always required there be taxis on duty (I actually don’t know if taxis are still in business here). I imagine coverage is even worse in less populated or les desirable parts of the country, and that’s one of the things we lost with taxis

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ridesharing, yes. Not uber taxi with exploitation

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Free ride sharing (eg hitchhiking) is better than cheap ride sharing (eg blabla car) which is better then expensive ride sharing (eg a taxi) which - but all are better than there only beingprivately owned cars that are exclusively privately used.

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 3 points 16 hours ago

Or, you know, public transport ;)

But yeah, it's true. I use carsharing if I feally need a car and public transport/biking most of the time.

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If you can plan a bit ahead, ridesharing/transportation is one of the most popular services in US timebanks.

Disclosure: I am a founding board member of a timebank that uses hOurworld software.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck Uber with a broken glass-encrusted dildo. Those Randroid douchebags can die in a fire made of fires.

[–] Lyrac@programming.dev -2 points 1 day ago

no need to kink shame