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Cats can't properly digest plant matter. They have very few taste buds and no sweet receptors for a reason. They can only digest meat.
Scenario 1: you leave the dog at the shelter and it eventually gets killed.
Scenario 2: you bring the dog home and feed it so that it doesn't get killed.
I don't see any ethical issue with my dogs eating the same foods I do. Why would i order the deaths of other animals for the sake of their taste buds?
I don’t see any ethical issue with my dogs eating the same foods I do.
Dogs can't eat grapes, onions, garlic, cashews, almonds, chocolate etc. There's some pretty big ethical issues feeding your dogs the same food you eat.
Cats and dogs can't survive purely on veggies. It's not just for their taste buds.
Dogs totally can. They are omnivores like us and evolved alongside us. Obviously they'd eat meat if given the choice so it's still a restrictive diet that they never got to choose for themselves, and that's an ethical minefield for vegans, but they can totally live on plants.
Cats are carnivores. I don't think they can live a full healthy life without at least some meat.
Pets don't get to choose what they eat, vegan or otherwise. Most pets thrive just fine on eating more or less the same couple foods all their life. "forcing therm" to eat vegan food is ethically the same as "forging them" to eat regular kibble.
Right, because pets are not free to make their own choices. They're property.
That's the ethical minefield I was talking about.
That a dumb take. Small children are also not free to pick the food they eat. Their parent chose their food. Are children property? If that's a minefield, it's a pretty weak one.
The difference is children spend 1/5 to 1/4 of their life being "not free" the animals you force to eat vegan spend their whole life stuck in that life style
When parents decide to deprive their children of vaccines, or block them from gender affirming care, or use corporal punishment, or any other things that "parental rights" freaks believe in- what do you think that is?
A huge portion of people consider children to be property, they want the right to control their children and to abuse them however they want.
Those things are actively harming children. Supplemented vegan food is not like being violent to pets.
You might be misunderstanding what I mean by "minefield". Controlling someone's food is a minefield because it is possible to make misteps. You can accidentally veer into abuse without extreme caution i.e. accidentally step on a mine.
That doesn't mean controlling your pet's diet is inherently abusive. It's just a minefield. Don't mistep.
Cats require specific vitamins such as taurine, which in nature would be derived from meat. In 21st century society, it is produced synthetically and easily supplemented.
Good point, it's not like I don't take B12 most days!
Because dogs are NOT herbavors and it's not consenting to that life style. Even "vegan" dogs will eat meat if given the chance.
See the scenarios above. Are you suggesting that dogs would choose death over a life where they dont get to eat their favourite foods?
These are important questions that not enough people are asking. See my other comment, but basically, I agree with your conclusion.